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The 2014 Mercedes A-CLASS - Specs!

Old Jun 15, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 01:11 PM
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Will it handle like the X???
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by olmoscd
Review is out and of course, Mercedes proves Mitsubishi stopped trying years ago.

I don't understand how this 2.0L borg warner turbo Merc can get 40 MPG while making 355HP. Just amazing.
Combine the fact that it does have a seven-speed automatic (so the top gear meant for cruising is probably really tall) and the fact that it is VERY likely that the 40 mpg figure was measuring imperial gallons, and it makes a little more sense. 40 mpg (imperial) equates to about 33 mpg (US). Don't get me wrong, 33 mpg from a 355 hp turbocharged four-cylinder with AWD is awesome. But it ain't 40 mpg.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83
Combine the fact that it does have a seven-speed automatic (so the top gear meant for cruising is probably really tall) and the fact that it is VERY likely that the 40 mpg figure was measuring imperial gallons, and it makes a little more sense. 40 mpg (imperial) equates to about 33 mpg (US). Don't get me wrong, 33 mpg from a 355 hp turbocharged four-cylinder with AWD is awesome. But it ain't 40 mpg.
estimated 19/25 from what i read, just like the gsr
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83
Combine the fact that it does have a seven-speed automatic (so the top gear meant for cruising is probably really tall) and the fact that it is VERY likely that the 40 mpg figure was measuring imperial gallons, and it makes a little more sense. 40 mpg (imperial) equates to about 33 mpg (US). Don't get me wrong, 33 mpg from a 355 hp turbocharged four-cylinder with AWD is awesome. But it ain't 40 mpg.
even if that 215 hp version achieves 33 mpg it would be golden, other than that 33mpg A45 sounds like a pipe dream. 17/25 according to C&D sounds realistic.
I think that this Merc crap is overrated as every Merc car is. You can think of all gadgetry and **** to be spread like its godsent, its not even quicker than 7 year old car that has 70 horsepower less and has less MPG than a car that is still MPI with single turbo(Evo IX comp), whilst Merc being bi-turbo'd with direct injection. And you're asked to pay $64k for a car that will most likely be overshadowed by atleast next gen STI by a huge margin whilst the later will be cheaper by half the price most likely. A45 is just pack of relief for Merc fans that went for Subaru/Evo for cheap performance, its most likely going to be overshadowed by what else is next in the line by evo/sti whilst later would cheaper, nimbler(mitsubishi promised smaller Evo) and with better fuel economy. Seeing how good Subbie concept is, I wouldn't even bother getting that Merc anyway, as existing cars that are 5-7 year old perform as equal as the before mentioned. Its not fanatic response but if we compare numbers, A45 isn't the brightest light in the end of the tunnel, especially for the heavy price you pay for it. Even if I adore EvoX, the fact is being fat as that car is, didn't help much, lots of fans think its worst itteration, so that speaks a lot how much awaited progress can be achieved in next gen, especiall that a45 isn't outbursting the current itterations by as large margin as it was thought.

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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by olmoscd
Review is out and of course, Mercedes proves Mitsubishi stopped trying years ago.

I don't understand how this 2.0L borg warner turbo Merc can get 40 MPG while making 355HP. Just amazing.

37k GBP, assuming the way other cars are priced, would probably mean around $40k USD which is a fantastic price as well. The same mitsu charges for X MR Touring which is a dated POS at this point.

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actually, the exchange rate is 1.5 usd per british pound, so the a45 would be in excess of $60k. i could buy a cts-v for that kind of coin. and i'm sure that the benz ecu will be heavily protected.
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 11:15 AM
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by olmoscd
The 19/25 you read was an estimate from Car & Driver from November 2012, the real figure has been out for a few weeks and it's [B]"40.9 MPG" according to Top Gear's June 2013 review, which is just incredible.
I believe they use imperial gallons, so 40 mpg isn't quite the same as 40 mpg here, so no point in reporting those numbers without adjusting them.
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 04:51 PM
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I always get a kick out of these threads.

US price is typically about 15-25% higher than UK price. You can't use the final sale price in the UK, you need to use the pre-VAT price which is 17% lower (UK VAT is 20%). So, a 37k GPB A45 AMG would probably end up being about $42-48k.

But the griping about Mitsubishi... priceless. Mitsubishi (NA) is a HORRIBLE car company and they have been for a long time. Their products have been 1-2 generations behind for as long as I can recall. Their good products? A low volume homologation car (Evo 1-6.5) that was nothing more than a go-fast platform. The 7-9 were closer to their street going car, and the X is still closer yet, because from the 7 on they didn't need to homologate to a race car. And therein lies the problem - the Evo 7-9 were based on horrible cars that were at least a full generation behind the other compacts. The X is arguably within a generation, but to justify a Lancer you need to embrace the weird quotient. The interior, NVH, ergo, etc are all way behind. The only selling point is styling and that's hit or miss.

Carping on VW/Audi for reliability? Comical. VW has had issues, but Mitsubishi are WAY down the list... you know, the bottom, save for some British marquees. If you disregard the Touareg/Q7 and the newest Beetle, VW/Audi look pretty good. Mercedes has been consistently above average for at least the last decade.

And since when is the Evo a reliable car?

Mitsubishi... they are what they are. They care enough to stay in the US market, but their R&D and products just aren't all that good. The current iteration of Lancer and Outlander show some promise, but making rally cars isn't in their DNA any more and the future of the Evo as a relatively cheap go-fast is probably at an end. I really don't know where Mitsubishi goes from where they are: developing the Evo as a flagship is expensive and probably money losing. Their only other products here are the upcoming Mirage (which looks horrible) and the i-Miev (a niche vehicle). Their Japanese lineup is heavy with compact vans/trucks, plus a few compact/midsize sedans.

It really would not surprise me to see Mitsubishi exit the US market in the next 5-10 years... meanwhile, AMG is doing quite well. So, yeah.

Bring on the A45 AMG!
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 07:26 AM
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I think the short answer is that Mitsubishi Heavy Industries views Mitsubishi NA / the North America market as an afterthought.
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