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03 evo for newer sti

Old Aug 12, 2012 | 09:34 AM
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03 evo for newer sti

does anyone own or has anyone ever drove a 2011 or 2012 sti? would it be a good upgrade from an 03 evo 8. im not talking about tracking the car im saying for weekend use and cruising. My evos been pissing me off lately and im thinking about just getting something newer. i love the new subarus and the packages they come with are pretty awesome. Is the new sti worth its price tag at all. pros and cons of it.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by deadstockkpomp
does anyone own or has anyone ever drove a 2011 or 2012 sti? would it be a good upgrade from an 03 evo 8. im not talking about tracking the car im saying for weekend use and cruising. My evos been pissing me off lately and im thinking about just getting something newer. i love the new subarus and the packages they come with are pretty awesome. Is the new sti worth its price tag at all. pros and cons of it.
dont do it!
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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For weekend use and cruising? STI all the way.

I love my Evo for AutoX, track days, weekend driving, etc. But I'll always choose my Subaru for DD and long trips, hands down.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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dont do it!
i really dont want to but the feeling of a new car with no problems is just great. now my evos in the shop making 180hp on the dyno for god knows what reason. the thought was lingering in my head even before that though.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 09:47 AM
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read up on the ringland 4 cracking on iwsti or nasioc. If you're ok to drive and take the chance then it's a great car for DD and some spirited fun. I had an 06 without the ringland issue and it was a blast. 07+ had ringland issues. I didn't feel at peace driving a newer one and having the possibility in the back of my mind.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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read up on the ringland 4 cracking on iwsti or nasioc. If you're ok to drive and take the chance then it's a great car for DD and some spirited fun. I had an 06 without the ringland issue and it was a blast. 07+ had ringland issues. I didn't feel at peace driving a newer one and having the possibility in the back of my mind.
the blow by issue still exists on the newer ones? i thought they would have fixed that by now
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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would anyone care to elaborate on that "blow by issue" or "ringland" ?

deadstockkpomp.. I remember seeing your previous thread on the low HP making of your evo.
Did you ever try another Dyno? Have you checked compression on pistons? The turbo might be having issues.. which is probably were im inclined on.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Hah, they havent really done **** other than cost-down that motor. Early STI's are more robust than late STI's. That said, I really like the newest sedan wrx and STI. For a pure DD, it would be a hard choice between an evo MR for the flappy paddles or an STI.

If you want to be competitive in racing, be it drag, autox, or RR, then sell the 03 and pick up an IX. The mivec and drivetrain differences are a massive upgrade from what you have. Drive even an ACD equiped car in the rain or snow agressively and you'll never want another car for all weather conditions.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by selp
would anyone care to elaborate on that "blow by issue" or "ringland" ?

deadstockkpomp.. I remember seeing your previous thread on the low HP making of your evo.
Did you ever try another Dyno? Have you checked compression on pistons? The turbo might be having issues.. which is probably were im inclined on.
compressions good across the boards. plugs are ok, and the clogged cat was replaced with a make-shift test pipe. so now im waiting for the answer on wheter it is the timing or the turbo. im leaning towards the timing myself. i dont see how its the turbo, it can generate boost up to 24 pounds and it makes no noises or anything. The dyno is not the problem as the tuner tunes cars on that dyno almost everyday.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Dallas J
Hah, they havent really done **** other than cost-down that motor. Early STI's are more robust than late STI's. That said, I really like the newest sedan wrx and STI. For a pure DD, it would be a hard choice between an evo MR for the flappy paddles or an STI.

If you want to be competitive in racing, be it drag, autox, or RR, then sell the 03 and pick up an IX. The mivec and drivetrain differences are a massive upgrade from what you have. Drive even an ACD equiped car in the rain or snow agressively and you'll never want another car for all weather conditions.
not so much into racing just want a reliable quick car. just need to work out some things on my car and im sure it will meet my needs. the car itself is clean as can be with ssl seats and i love it, but the reality of it is the car was raced and its going to need some TLC at times, and for the rain the front lsd works just fine

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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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I would choose the Evo over a Subaru every time someone would ask the question.

Three simple reasons why-

I know the platform: one of the best awd vehicles in handling and power delivery

Cost per hp: the lowest out of most vehicles

Aftermarket support: Endless possibilities.

I dont know the history of your Evo and I wouldn't care about dyno numbers. Once your Evo is repaired or is finally tuned whatever number it ends up making is only subjective. The real test is get in and drive it. If it doesn't put a smile on your face then look elsewhere.

Every Evo I worked on has its issues but in the hands of an experienced mechanic or individual those issues can be fixed.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by deylag
I would choose the Evo over a Subaru every time someone would ask the question.

Three simple reasons why-

I know the platform: one of the best awd vehicles in handling and power delivery

Cost per hp: the lowest out of most vehicles

Aftermarket support: Endless possibilities.

I dont know the history of your Evo and I wouldn't care about dyno numbers. Once your Evo is repaired or is finally tuned whatever number it ends up making is only subjective. The real test is get in and drive it. If it doesn't put a smile on your face then look elsewhere.

Every Evo I worked on has its issues but in the hands of an experienced mechanic or individual those issues can be fixed.
thanks, good advice, my car is in good hands and is being worked on, i love it so much i hate to see it break down if you know what i mean
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Just because one tuning shop cannot figure out your Evo, does not mean it's time to sell it and buy an STi. Like previously mentioned, I would try another shop. CBRD isn't too far away from you. It might not be the car... it could be the shop.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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Don't forget that the mustang dyno can be a heart breaker. Especially when you compare it to others numbers that float around and can be quite inflated. I am sure once you get things figured out it will make more power.

The 03 Evo will definitely not be as comfortable to dd than the STI out of the box, but it has way more potential.
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Old Aug 12, 2012 | 11:36 AM
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If you are completely done with the car the 2011 STI's are very nice but are extremely expensive. If you are going the route of something as huge and heavy as that why not go with an EVO 10...or an evo 9 like stated above.
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