Clarkson sacked from Top Gear
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You silly dysfunctional idiots of society that say this is a PC issue are confused. Threatening to place your hands on someone or harm them in any way is assault and actually committing the act is battery. That is the law period. You are looking at this from the perspective of a fan watching a boxing match and rooting for your fighter, wrong perspective.
This needs to be looked at from the perspective of you at work and someone threatens or punches "YOU" in the face, is this right, is this correct behavior. It is irrelevant whether you are a giant gorilla who can donkey kong punch him all over the room. You both or more than likely the first person to strike someone unprovoked physically would loose their job, and face the law.
Even if you're FJF who works at a secret facility of badassery, he's lying to say nothing happens as he spends his days at work punching people out for hogging the water cooler. Even a place like UFC, throw a punch at Dana White and see if you have a contract or the same contract the next day.
I understand that someone may press your buttons at work, but violence isn't the answer.....You want button pressing? plenty of that in the military but we had rank structure and discipline and oh yeah, UCMJ, put your hands or threaten to do so at an NCO or Officer and see if your next check looks the same(to say the least).
This isn't a PC issue, it is a violence issue and Jeremy has a history of disrespect, legal, "and yes" all manner of PC violations across the globe where ever he goes. There are limits. What kind of work environment would it be if leadership and subordinates threaten each other verbally and physically all day, you're going to honestly say that this would be ok for your wife to go to work and be punched in the face by a coworker because they didn't want to reschedule all her afternoon appointments and told her to get bent. Or your boss rips up your whole proposal for a project you spent a week developing and calls you a POS a-hole and no wonder his kid is a POS failure also, and grabs you by the tie and throws you out of his office violently in front of everyone outside....that's ok behavior??? oh yeah, fight back right, settle it like men in the "olden" days????.......GTFOH.
I like the show, very entertaining and Jeremy is ok but if he wants to be the boss and call the shots he should've gone into producing long ago, if not, do as your told, period, and if you do something out of line, pay the consequences. That is civility, societal norms and moral behavior, we have established order and a legal system that separates us from people that for example stomp a woman to death in the streets and then burn her in place, or so we say right.
This needs to be looked at from the perspective of you at work and someone threatens or punches "YOU" in the face, is this right, is this correct behavior. It is irrelevant whether you are a giant gorilla who can donkey kong punch him all over the room. You both or more than likely the first person to strike someone unprovoked physically would loose their job, and face the law.
Even if you're FJF who works at a secret facility of badassery, he's lying to say nothing happens as he spends his days at work punching people out for hogging the water cooler. Even a place like UFC, throw a punch at Dana White and see if you have a contract or the same contract the next day.
I understand that someone may press your buttons at work, but violence isn't the answer.....You want button pressing? plenty of that in the military but we had rank structure and discipline and oh yeah, UCMJ, put your hands or threaten to do so at an NCO or Officer and see if your next check looks the same(to say the least).
This isn't a PC issue, it is a violence issue and Jeremy has a history of disrespect, legal, "and yes" all manner of PC violations across the globe where ever he goes. There are limits. What kind of work environment would it be if leadership and subordinates threaten each other verbally and physically all day, you're going to honestly say that this would be ok for your wife to go to work and be punched in the face by a coworker because they didn't want to reschedule all her afternoon appointments and told her to get bent. Or your boss rips up your whole proposal for a project you spent a week developing and calls you a POS a-hole and no wonder his kid is a POS failure also, and grabs you by the tie and throws you out of his office violently in front of everyone outside....that's ok behavior??? oh yeah, fight back right, settle it like men in the "olden" days????.......GTFOH.
I like the show, very entertaining and Jeremy is ok but if he wants to be the boss and call the shots he should've gone into producing long ago, if not, do as your told, period, and if you do something out of line, pay the consequences. That is civility, societal norms and moral behavior, we have established order and a legal system that separates us from people that for example stomp a woman to death in the streets and then burn her in place, or so we say right.
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It is legit. So a sandwich is ok, then what...talk about your dead mom is cool or not, what's ok and not ok, who decides, EvoM members.
Assault and battery is assault and battery, period. Over a sandwich, words in a religious book, whatever: there is no legal reason to put your hands on someone.
Cases of safety, life, property, rape, are explainable and possibly excusable, not so much over "a sandwich".
....Or does it make it okay to threaten or punch someone if I have a popular show and get one million petitions, do you know Jeremy personally, what if when you go ask for an autograph he tells you to f#@* off and punches you in the face for having got close, is it ok then.
Actors and entertainers can break the law based on fans and petitions, so what of the other 95% of the world population that isn't famous, just take the punches? fight back right? revert to caveman days, woohoooo, shoot 'em up, sounds like a spiral into anarchy or these crazy third world country where people do what they want and warlords and dictators are the norm. A bit extreme yes, but it used to be mostly like that in our progressive nations but we slowly became civil and formed a functioning society(well mostly).
Assault and battery is assault and battery, period. Over a sandwich, words in a religious book, whatever: there is no legal reason to put your hands on someone.
Cases of safety, life, property, rape, are explainable and possibly excusable, not so much over "a sandwich".
....Or does it make it okay to threaten or punch someone if I have a popular show and get one million petitions, do you know Jeremy personally, what if when you go ask for an autograph he tells you to f#@* off and punches you in the face for having got close, is it ok then.
Actors and entertainers can break the law based on fans and petitions, so what of the other 95% of the world population that isn't famous, just take the punches? fight back right? revert to caveman days, woohoooo, shoot 'em up, sounds like a spiral into anarchy or these crazy third world country where people do what they want and warlords and dictators are the norm. A bit extreme yes, but it used to be mostly like that in our progressive nations but we slowly became civil and formed a functioning society(well mostly).
It is legit. So a sandwich is ok, then what...talk about your dead mom is cool or not, what's ok and not ok, who decides, EvoM members.
Assault and battery is assault and battery, period. Over a sandwich, words in a religious book, whatever: there is no legal reason to put your hands on someone.
Cases of safety, life, property, rape, are explainable and possibly excusable, not so much over "a sandwich".
....Or does it make it okay to threaten or punch someone if I have a popular show and get one million petitions, do you know Jeremy personally, what if when you go ask for an autograph he tells you to f#@* off and punches you in the face for having got close, is it ok then.
Actors and entertainers can break the law based on fans and petitions, so what of the other 95% of the world population that isn't famous, just take the punches? fight back right? revert to caveman days, woohoooo, shoot 'em up, sounds like a spiral into anarchy or these crazy third world country where people do what they want and warlords and dictators are the norm. A bit extreme yes, but it used to be mostly like that in our progressive nations but we slowly became civil and formed a functioning society(well mostly).
Assault and battery is assault and battery, period. Over a sandwich, words in a religious book, whatever: there is no legal reason to put your hands on someone.
Cases of safety, life, property, rape, are explainable and possibly excusable, not so much over "a sandwich".
....Or does it make it okay to threaten or punch someone if I have a popular show and get one million petitions, do you know Jeremy personally, what if when you go ask for an autograph he tells you to f#@* off and punches you in the face for having got close, is it ok then.
Actors and entertainers can break the law based on fans and petitions, so what of the other 95% of the world population that isn't famous, just take the punches? fight back right? revert to caveman days, woohoooo, shoot 'em up, sounds like a spiral into anarchy or these crazy third world country where people do what they want and warlords and dictators are the norm. A bit extreme yes, but it used to be mostly like that in our progressive nations but we slowly became civil and formed a functioning society(well mostly).
Rashid, please don't troll me, and don't put words in my mouth. Where have I heard that before? Oh, yea, on the previous page of this thread.
The JC incident happened outside a hotel, not next to the office water cooler. And, now, you decide to appoint yourself as the beacon of morality. Enough with the self-righteous silliness.
The JC incident happened outside a hotel, not next to the office water cooler. And, now, you decide to appoint yourself as the beacon of morality. Enough with the self-righteous silliness.
You silly dysfunctional idiots of society that say this is a PC issue are confused. Threatening to place your hands on someone or harm them in any way is assault and actually committing the act is battery. That is the law period. You are looking at this from the perspective of a fan watching a boxing match and rooting for your fighter, wrong perspective.
This needs to be looked at from the perspective of you at work and someone threatens or punches "YOU" in the face, is this right, is this correct behavior. It is irrelevant whether you are a giant gorilla who can donkey kong punch him all over the room. You both or more than likely the first person to strike someone unprovoked physically would loose their job, and face the law.
Even if you're FJF who works at a secret facility of badassery, he's lying to say nothing happens as he spends his days at work punching people out for hogging the water cooler. Even a place like UFC, throw a punch at Dana White and see if you have a contract or the same contract the next day.
I understand that someone may press your buttons at work, but violence isn't the answer.....You want button pressing? plenty of that in the military but we had rank structure and discipline and oh yeah, UCMJ, put your hands or threaten to do so at an NCO or Officer and see if your next check looks the same(to say the least).
This isn't a PC issue, it is a violence issue and Jeremy has a history of disrespect, legal, "and yes" all manner of PC violations across the globe where ever he goes. There are limits. What kind of work environment would it be if leadership and subordinates threaten each other verbally and physically all day, you're going to honestly say that this would be ok for your wife to go to work and be punched in the face by a coworker because they didn't want to reschedule all her afternoon appointments and told her to get bent. Or your boss rips up your whole proposal for a project you spent a week developing and calls you a POS a-hole and no wonder his kid is a POS failure also, and grabs you by the tie and throws you out of his office violently in front of everyone outside....that's ok behavior??? oh yeah, fight back right, settle it like men in the "olden" days????.......GTFOH.
I like the show, very entertaining and Jeremy is ok but if he wants to be the boss and call the shots he should've gone into producing long ago, if not, do as your told, period, and if you do something out of line, pay the consequences. That is civility, societal norms and moral behavior, we have established order and a legal system that separates us from people that for example stomp a woman to death in the streets and then burn her in place, or so we say right.
This needs to be looked at from the perspective of you at work and someone threatens or punches "YOU" in the face, is this right, is this correct behavior. It is irrelevant whether you are a giant gorilla who can donkey kong punch him all over the room. You both or more than likely the first person to strike someone unprovoked physically would loose their job, and face the law.
Even if you're FJF who works at a secret facility of badassery, he's lying to say nothing happens as he spends his days at work punching people out for hogging the water cooler. Even a place like UFC, throw a punch at Dana White and see if you have a contract or the same contract the next day.
I understand that someone may press your buttons at work, but violence isn't the answer.....You want button pressing? plenty of that in the military but we had rank structure and discipline and oh yeah, UCMJ, put your hands or threaten to do so at an NCO or Officer and see if your next check looks the same(to say the least).
This isn't a PC issue, it is a violence issue and Jeremy has a history of disrespect, legal, "and yes" all manner of PC violations across the globe where ever he goes. There are limits. What kind of work environment would it be if leadership and subordinates threaten each other verbally and physically all day, you're going to honestly say that this would be ok for your wife to go to work and be punched in the face by a coworker because they didn't want to reschedule all her afternoon appointments and told her to get bent. Or your boss rips up your whole proposal for a project you spent a week developing and calls you a POS a-hole and no wonder his kid is a POS failure also, and grabs you by the tie and throws you out of his office violently in front of everyone outside....that's ok behavior??? oh yeah, fight back right, settle it like men in the "olden" days????.......GTFOH.
I like the show, very entertaining and Jeremy is ok but if he wants to be the boss and call the shots he should've gone into producing long ago, if not, do as your told, period, and if you do something out of line, pay the consequences. That is civility, societal norms and moral behavior, we have established order and a legal system that separates us from people that for example stomp a woman to death in the streets and then burn her in place, or so we say right.
looks like anyone that disagree's or has anything remotely negative to say about FJF is a troll... Mr. Badass punch people at work all day long can't take a little disagreement, no wonder he goes around punching people all day
Last edited by WarmMilk; Mar 23, 2015 at 09:55 AM.
The BBC is a public entity, similar to PBS in the US, and is funded and exists by government mandate. They're somewhat required to be PC. There's a long history of accusations of bias/racism/homophobia/etc and because the network is supposed to be representative of all of Britain, they tend to overreact.
We'll probably never know what happened, at least not 100%, and prior to the internet/faux outrage era we live in now, this would have been swept under the rug. I don't know that sweeping it under the rug is the right thing to do, but by making a big deal about it, BBC is probably making themselves look bad more so than making Clarkson look bad.
We'll probably never know what happened, at least not 100%, and prior to the internet/faux outrage era we live in now, this would have been swept under the rug. I don't know that sweeping it under the rug is the right thing to do, but by making a big deal about it, BBC is probably making themselves look bad more so than making Clarkson look bad.
Last edited by WestSideBilly; Mar 23, 2015 at 03:09 PM.
