No New Mazdaspeed 3
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No New Mazdaspeed 3
Options for an Evo replacement with potential to add big power and maintain AWD seems nonexistent for now.
Mazda MPS – no plans to introduce new hot models
Were you excited when Mazda announced its commitment to the rotary engine by introducing the RX-Vision concept? Are you hoping that the Japanese carmaker’s high-performance focus will also result in the revival of the MPS (or Mazdaspeed) nameplate?
Well, bad news. According to Car Advice, Mazda has poured cold water on any plans to introduce MPS versions on its current model line-up.
Speaking to the Australian publication, Mazda’s global president and CEO, Masamichi Kogai said, “the performance vehicles of Mazda 3 and other models, we don’t have plans at the moment. So we have to really have one best model.”
“Because we have limited resources, if we keep developing derivatives and too many derivatives, the resources we can afford to allocate on the base model or the core models will go down and then we are not able to perfect each of these models,” he added.
It was previously widely speculated that the current crop of Mazda models would be made into MPS versions, including the third-generation Mazda 3 (imagined as Theophilus Chin’s renderings at the top), new MX-5, fourth-generation Mazda 2, and the third-generation Mazda 6.
The Mazda 3 and Mazda 6 have previously had range-topping high performance variants before, with the former receiving the MPS treatment on its first- and second generation models.
In both versions, a turbocharged MZR 2.3 litre engine provided a healthy 256 hp (263 hp for US and Canadian models) at 5,500rpm and 380 Nm of torque at 3,000rpm. Malaysians were offered the second-generation Mazda 3 MPS, with a RM175k price tag at the time.
Meanwhile, the Mazda 6 also received an MPS version known as the Mazdaspeed6 in North America and Mazda 6 MPS in Europe, South Africa, and Australia. On the 6 – it too received the turbo 2.3 litre MZR mill with differing power outputs depending on the market it was sold in, ranging between 268hp to 274hp, while torque remains at 380 Nm.
With the focus now on Mazda’s next-generation rotary sports car, there’s no harm in wishing for the return of the MPS line-up in the future. How much would you like to see that happen?
http://paultan.org/2015/10/29/mazda-...ew-hot-models/
Mazda MPS – no plans to introduce new hot models
Were you excited when Mazda announced its commitment to the rotary engine by introducing the RX-Vision concept? Are you hoping that the Japanese carmaker’s high-performance focus will also result in the revival of the MPS (or Mazdaspeed) nameplate?
Well, bad news. According to Car Advice, Mazda has poured cold water on any plans to introduce MPS versions on its current model line-up.
Speaking to the Australian publication, Mazda’s global president and CEO, Masamichi Kogai said, “the performance vehicles of Mazda 3 and other models, we don’t have plans at the moment. So we have to really have one best model.”
“Because we have limited resources, if we keep developing derivatives and too many derivatives, the resources we can afford to allocate on the base model or the core models will go down and then we are not able to perfect each of these models,” he added.
It was previously widely speculated that the current crop of Mazda models would be made into MPS versions, including the third-generation Mazda 3 (imagined as Theophilus Chin’s renderings at the top), new MX-5, fourth-generation Mazda 2, and the third-generation Mazda 6.
The Mazda 3 and Mazda 6 have previously had range-topping high performance variants before, with the former receiving the MPS treatment on its first- and second generation models.
In both versions, a turbocharged MZR 2.3 litre engine provided a healthy 256 hp (263 hp for US and Canadian models) at 5,500rpm and 380 Nm of torque at 3,000rpm. Malaysians were offered the second-generation Mazda 3 MPS, with a RM175k price tag at the time.
Meanwhile, the Mazda 6 also received an MPS version known as the Mazdaspeed6 in North America and Mazda 6 MPS in Europe, South Africa, and Australia. On the 6 – it too received the turbo 2.3 litre MZR mill with differing power outputs depending on the market it was sold in, ranging between 268hp to 274hp, while torque remains at 380 Nm.
With the focus now on Mazda’s next-generation rotary sports car, there’s no harm in wishing for the return of the MPS line-up in the future. How much would you like to see that happen?
http://paultan.org/2015/10/29/mazda-...ew-hot-models/
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Focus RS - indications that any power over stock will go to front wheels.
Golf R - Not a fan of the AWD system.
STI - reliability concerns of significant power increases
Audi and Benz - out of my price range. S4 too heavy anyway for my liking.
Golf R - Not a fan of the AWD system.
STI - reliability concerns of significant power increases
Audi and Benz - out of my price range. S4 too heavy anyway for my liking.
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I'd take every other car on that list over a crappy Mazdaspeed 3. Front wheel drive sucks, their engines are marginally built, and don't endure much of a power increase.
Nothing wrong with a Golf R. Sticking with my Evo, but the R would be a solid car. BMW M2 would be great as well!
Nothing wrong with a Golf R. Sticking with my Evo, but the R would be a solid car. BMW M2 would be great as well!
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I'd take every other car on that list over a crappy Mazdaspeed 3. Front wheel drive sucks, their engines are marginally built, and don't endure much of a power increase.
Nothing wrong with a Golf R. Sticking with my Evo, but the R would be a solid car. BMW M2 would be great as well!
Nothing wrong with a Golf R. Sticking with my Evo, but the R would be a solid car. BMW M2 would be great as well!
I'd take every other car on that list over a crappy Mazdaspeed 3. Front wheel drive sucks, their engines are marginally built, and don't endure much of a power increase.
Nothing wrong with a Golf R. Sticking with my Evo, but the R would be a solid car. BMW M2 would be great as well!
Nothing wrong with a Golf R. Sticking with my Evo, but the R would be a solid car. BMW M2 would be great as well!
nothing wrong with fwd IMO!
and I actually love it for autocross. Set it up loose, will rotate nicely on turn in - when it oversteers, all you have to do is get on the gas and it corrects itself.
and I actually love it for autocross. Set it up loose, will rotate nicely on turn in - when it oversteers, all you have to do is get on the gas and it corrects itself.
I agree with what you've said about the STI. That's from a former STI owner.
I know tuners are seeing big gains with the Golf R and its cousin S3 (note he said S3, not S4).
The S3 and CLA45 AMG aren't that expensive.
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the s3 is only ~$3-5k than the FoRS or an Evo 10 MR, but the cla45 amg is a full $10k more. both are obviously upscale cars, but in the turbo awd market segment, the are on the high side, and imho, the cla45 amg is flat out expensive.
