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Old Jul 21, 2021 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
Dont get too comfy, the EPA is coming for Redneckistan too.
Keep that dream alive, every surrounding county that touches Nashville Metro just repealed emissions testing!
Believe it or not, there are actually some benefits to living in a red state. They don magic green gloves, let all the Evos pass catless, but make certain every coal roller walks the plank.
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Old Jul 21, 2021 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Keep that dream alive, every surrounding county that touches Nashville Metro just repealed emissions testing!
Believe it or not, there are actually some benefits to living in a red state. They don magic green gloves, let all the Evos pass catless, but make certain every coal roller walks the plank.
The EPA is a Federal Agency, you might want to look into what they have been up to. Then you should contact your elected officials and tell them to support the bipartisan R.P.M. Act.

P.S. Before anyone screams "AHHH THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION"......this has been happening / escalating for a while.

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Old Jul 21, 2021 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
The EPA is a Federal Agency, you might want to look into what they have been up to. Then you should contact your elected officials and tell them to support the bipartisan R.P.M. Act.

P.S. Before anyone screams "AHHH THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION"......this has been happening / escalating for a while.
Actually the RPM act is different from this discussion. Current EPA rules prohibit turning a modern street car into a dedicated race car. The RPM act would correct this. I am very keen to see this go forward since I have already decided to bypass smog and register my now track-only Evo non-op.
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Old Jul 21, 2021 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GotKT?
Actually the RPM act is different from this discussion. Current EPA rules prohibit turning a modern street car into a dedicated race car. The RPM act would correct this. I am very keen to see this go forward since I have already decided to bypass smog and register my now track-only Evo non-op.
Yeah I know, thanks. I was just trying to raise awareness about the RPM act.
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Old Jul 21, 2021 | 03:56 PM
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I don’t disable the immobilizer. There is no reason to.
ah. Mine was disabled because I was having trouble getting keys programmed to my car. It was also kinda nice buying $3 keys.
The laptop I had my stock ROM on died a miserable death, and I'm unable to retrieve the information. Doh!
Hopefully my tuner still has it.
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Old Aug 12, 2021 | 11:39 AM
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I got flagged by the ref. Had to put car back to stock and show proof of factory reflash. It was a pain in the *** needless to say. The ref failed my car due to air inlet duct not on the car while using aem air intake. Had to reschedule another ref appointment. Finally passed smog and looking for a stock ecu to put tunes on for next smog cycle.

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So I got hit up after smog checking the car in January of 2020. No notice in the mail (yet) but running the VIN on BAR's website says the car has been flagged for state ref. Been scanning the various threads on here and elsewhere. I had assumed if I had the original factory software map/tune/ROM, all I needed to do to be in compliance is re-flash the ECU with that, (along with changing what ever supported mods), and I would be got to go. But sounds like that wont work now...?

I have to get this figured out in the next few months as come January 2022, I'll have a date with the state ref to inspect the car.

**edited, should be January 2022, not 2021 **
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 12:36 PM
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I got a brain freeze
Can you just take another stock ecu, give it power wire it to a separate obd2,
will that be enough? Hide the original obd2
will it work with just a 12volt plug and just the obd2 plug only?
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DRAGHICI
I got a brain freeze
Can you just take another stock ecu, give it power wire it to a separate obd2,
will that be enough? Hide the original obd2
will it work with just a 12volt plug and just the obd2 plug only?

Sadly, it's not that simple. Even if you could install a second OBD2 port and power the second ECU, it would need to be plugged into every single sensor in the car in parallel and obtain the correct signals without controlling the ignition coils. Certainly it would throw a check engine light and cause a ref fail..

The best solution is to have two physical ECUs to swap between smogs. Have one of them flashed to stock by a Mitsubishi dealer and another to tune it to your desires however you want it. CAL ID, Immobilizer, and all the other stupid crap that can fail you will be there when you need it. Swapping the ECU is easy as well. Remove the glove box by removing 1 clip, then it's 3 harness connectors out the bottom of the ecu and three 10mm bolts holding it in.
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pal215
The best solution is to have two physical ECUs to swap between smogs. Have one of them flashed to stock by a Mitsubishi dealer and another to tune it to your desires however you want it. CAL ID, Immobilizer, and all the other stupid crap that can fail you will be there when you need it. Swapping the ECU is easy as well. Remove the glove box by removing 1 clip, then it's 3 harness connectors out the bottom of the ecu and three 10mm bolts holding it in.
5,000x easier to just flash an OEM rom in your ECU. You all are making things wayyyy too complicated. Save tune, flash OEM rom, drive to smog, pass, drive home, flash back to tune.
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 03:44 PM
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And if your original ROM got lost in a hard drive crash....
have fun. 😂
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
And if your original ROM got lost in a hard drive crash....
have fun. 😂
You don't need the actual original ROM from the car unless you have a crap tuner that turned off your immobilizer. ;P
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 07:33 AM
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I've had a few locals get flagged for having the wrong cal ID in their "OE ROM" flashed back in the car when using a stock ROM NOT pulled from the car originally. They've all had to have a dealer reflash done. Just flashing in a stock ROM didn't pass in california.
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by black_out
I've had a few locals get flagged for having the wrong cal ID in their "OE ROM" flashed back in the car when using a stock ROM NOT pulled from the car originally. They've all had to have a dealer reflash done. Just flashing in a stock ROM didn't pass in california.
That is their fault then. My point still stands. If you flash in the appropriate stock rom for your car, you will pass. It DOES NOT need to be the exact rom pulled from the car. It only has to be an OEM ROM appropriate for the car according to the records. It is up to the owner to know what is the appropriate rom.

I've done this at least 50x over the last three years for people I have tuned in the past. All in California.
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 08:10 AM
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All supposedly using OE roms, all flagged for tampering. Not my problem, I live where we dont have emissions.
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by black_out
All supposedly using OE roms, all flagged for tampering. Not my problem, I live where we dont have emissions.
They probably didn't match the right ROM ID with the ECU/Records. Some years have a good amount of different ROM ID revisions. Some only have one or two.
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