dispute with mxguy1286
lets see what the true integrity level mxguy really has.. its your choice now to make it right or not..
i put the stuff on the table.. its pretty clear the cams are not functioning as you intended them to be.. whether you knew or not they were damaged does not make it right to rip the end user off after you are now aware they are not functional under any circumstance.
if they were sold "as is" i would just have trashed them by now and took it as a loss, but there was absolutely no sign of not being functional in the for sale ad.
not much to really say.. i didnt handle my sale between howell 100% either.. but i also was going on 48hr no sleep and my head was not fully there.. but ill admit i could of made a cleaner transaction with him as well during the sale..
I will atleast admit and do the right thing when im wrong.. so far you are not doing the same. You are just trying to blame it on Howell that he tried to install them wrong.. even after we told you he has new bf 272 that went right in.. i dont know what more can be said to show proof.
just because i personally did not attempt to install them should not mean a damn thing.. if the product is bad its bad.. i trusted you that it was a good product so i never inspected them or anything.. i just shipped them to my customer and now we are where we are right now..
if they came out of a evo head that had no sign of damage / wear them fine.. you sold the cams without knowing they were actually damaged.. that is completely understandable.. but now that you know something is wrong you are still trying to avoid to make the transaction correct and that is where theres a big problem..
there shouldnt be no thinking about it the situation.. you should do the right thing and return my $ and take your cams back.. clearly they do not work as you thought they did before you sold them..
I just dont get what you're thinking here.. that even though they did not work on howells head they still might work? i dont get it.. howell stated many times he wanted to use the cams but couldn't..
i put the stuff on the table.. its pretty clear the cams are not functioning as you intended them to be.. whether you knew or not they were damaged does not make it right to rip the end user off after you are now aware they are not functional under any circumstance.
if they were sold "as is" i would just have trashed them by now and took it as a loss, but there was absolutely no sign of not being functional in the for sale ad.
not much to really say.. i didnt handle my sale between howell 100% either.. but i also was going on 48hr no sleep and my head was not fully there.. but ill admit i could of made a cleaner transaction with him as well during the sale..
I will atleast admit and do the right thing when im wrong.. so far you are not doing the same. You are just trying to blame it on Howell that he tried to install them wrong.. even after we told you he has new bf 272 that went right in.. i dont know what more can be said to show proof.
just because i personally did not attempt to install them should not mean a damn thing.. if the product is bad its bad.. i trusted you that it was a good product so i never inspected them or anything.. i just shipped them to my customer and now we are where we are right now..
if they came out of a evo head that had no sign of damage / wear them fine.. you sold the cams without knowing they were actually damaged.. that is completely understandable.. but now that you know something is wrong you are still trying to avoid to make the transaction correct and that is where theres a big problem..
there shouldnt be no thinking about it the situation.. you should do the right thing and return my $ and take your cams back.. clearly they do not work as you thought they did before you sold them..
I just dont get what you're thinking here.. that even though they did not work on howells head they still might work? i dont get it.. howell stated many times he wanted to use the cams but couldn't..
LOL clearly you dont want to be proven wrong and just wont your money back because you just plain dont want the cams. I am doing things 100% fair and true. More then one cylinder head in a video all in one video. If they dont fit in one of the heads ill give you your money back. If they fit in goth you will do what you said, issue a public apology and retract this whole thread.
Doesnt get more fair then that. So far I have sold you exactly what I told you i sold you and YOU have yet to install these cams.
Doesnt get more fair then that. So far I have sold you exactly what I told you i sold you and YOU have yet to install these cams.
Sounds to me like you just dont want the cams and are looking for a out....
In any case, fine send them back. I have two evo8 cylinder heads I can put these in, side by side. Once the test is done I will report back with the info and if a re-fund is warranted it will be issued. If they spin and work as they did when I had them then this is expected right away with no excuses/no oh they dont fit in my head though and no more bull **** and crying that your always right.
In any case, fine send them back. I have two evo8 cylinder heads I can put these in, side by side. Once the test is done I will report back with the info and if a re-fund is warranted it will be issued. If they spin and work as they did when I had them then this is expected right away with no excuses/no oh they dont fit in my head though and no more bull **** and crying that your always right.
do you think Howell is lying? Howell said he was going to run the cams.. there is no reason for him to lie.. he definitely didnt wanna drop the $ he did on new cams if he could of gotten yours to work..
he also purchased those new ones before i refunded him the $ so that tells me he is not hurt for $ either.. he just needed something to install into his evo and i convinced him the bf 272 was a solid cam to the point he actually purchased brand new set because the ones i sent him did not work..
he didnt even purchase them through me either.. he did it directly.
pm me your address.
LOL clearly you dont want to be proven wrong and just wont your money back because you just plain dont want the cams. I am doing things 100% fair and true. More then one cylinder head in a video all in one video. If they dont fit in one of the heads ill give you your money back. If they fit in goth you will do what you said, issue a public apology and retract this whole thread.
Doesnt get more fair then that. So far I have sold you exactly what I told you i sold you and YOU have yet to install these cams.
Doesnt get more fair then that. So far I have sold you exactly what I told you i sold you and YOU have yet to install these cams.
all heads are equal right? otherwise ordering cams would be a horrible situation for all evo's if the heads would be different like that.
you're gonna find that they dont fit man.. unless howell is lying.. but i am 99.9% positive hes not doing that. the guy is very honest and legit.
pm me your address.. i just posted why im confused. i just dont see how they can not work in Howell's head but work in another evo head.
all heads are equal right? otherwise ordering cams would be a horrible situation for all evo's if the heads would be different like that.
you're gonna find that they dont fit man.. unless howell is lying.. but i am 99.9% positive hes not doing that. the guy is very honest and legit.
all heads are equal right? otherwise ordering cams would be a horrible situation for all evo's if the heads would be different like that.
you're gonna find that they dont fit man.. unless howell is lying.. but i am 99.9% positive hes not doing that. the guy is very honest and legit.
You rather believe what you didnt see than what you do see.....99% of problems in this industry start with this. Video will be made and we will go from there.
Also find it b.s that not a single moderator has said anything and I cant edit posts, or view classifieds. This place is all about money.....Guess I should pay for a vendor status and ill always be right.....
This has been going on for a straight day. You guys have gotten nowhere. Made zero progress. Either put your dicks away and figure it out or don't. This thread has gone from a legitimate dispute to just retardation going in a circle.
(to others - i am sending the cams back and he is going to confirm they are faulty himself).
Oh jesus, its going to be super hilarious if you realize that the 3rd and 4th party buyer/mechanic are trying to install a Evo 8 Cam on an Evo 9 head. Lol, since the intake cam for the evo 9 should be "longer" due to the variable valve timing unit "mivec" on the intake cam gear. I hope you verified this before making a dispute.
Oh jesus, its going to be super hilarious if you realize that the 3rd and 4th party buyer/mechanic are trying to install a Evo 8 Cam on an Evo 9 head. Lol, since the intake cam for the evo 9 should be "longer" due to the variable valve timing unit "mivec" on the intake cam gear. I hope you verified this before making a dispute.
Oh jesus, its going to be super hilarious if you realize that the 3rd and 4th party buyer/mechanic are trying to install a Evo 8 Cam on an Evo 9 head. Lol, since the intake cam for the evo 9 should be "longer" due to the variable valve timing unit "mivec" on the intake cam gear. I hope you verified this before making a dispute.
Karl im contacting Buschur Racing first to see if they will inspect the cams and confirm they are good / bad i feel this is safer for both of us.
It is their product and they im sure have good heads laying around as well.
Waiting on them to contact me back now. Then from there i will ship the cams back to you.
If not they are going to them regardless to test them
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for now im going to open the cams and take detailed pics since i have yet to do that.. just so i have detailed pics of my own and not somebody elses.
It is their product and they im sure have good heads laying around as well.
Waiting on them to contact me back now. Then from there i will ship the cams back to you.
If not they are going to them regardless to test them
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for now im going to open the cams and take detailed pics since i have yet to do that.. just so i have detailed pics of my own and not somebody elses.
Oh cool, my question as to why my privlidges to classifieds and why I can not search or edit was removed......
And thats not what I agreed upon. I agreed that I would install these cams into two seperate cylinder heads in one video. If they dont fit your money will be re-funded. If they fit in both they get shipped back and you issue a apology and this thread gets deleted.
And thats not what I agreed upon. I agreed that I would install these cams into two seperate cylinder heads in one video. If they dont fit your money will be re-funded. If they fit in both they get shipped back and you issue a apology and this thread gets deleted.



