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Old May 3, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Fob
Alex, do you have the patch harness? if so, it's literally plug-n-play.
I do have the patch harness, but it doesn't work on my ECU, the connectors are different (I tried). So the only chance is to actually splice it in, which I didn't want to do in the first place, but I even called boomslang, and they said they don't make the harness for my car.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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^^^I think I live close to you if I remember correctly. What area are you in? If you need someone who doesn't know what they are doing to help you, I'm your man
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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well, considering what the safc II should do, I need it to be installed good. but you can stop by and assist, which is what I'll also do (I don't trust myself to splice into the ECU wires, yet)
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Old May 3, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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Alright,

It's official, something is wrong with my evo. Remeber my bad time - 15.28 last week at the strip. Well I kept running 14.6 all day today.

Two days ago I have installed Injen Intake and Upper IC pipe. (20 hp proven ), and just kept hitting around the same time. And this time my reaction was good. Almost won $3000 , went to semi-finals on elimination runs they had today.

There was one guy on white evo (he didn't run at all), but he told me that it's pretty bad time considering that my reactions were good and that I had Injen system. He told me I might have a boost leak or something. And I don't know what to do.....

Gonna contact Buschur tomorrow to see if he might help. Gonna order HKS cat-back today and probably ask Buschur to custom tune my Evo and probably order a boost gauge from him. Unless someone has got one local that wants to sell it to me (even the crapiest one), just want to find out how deep in **** I am.

BY the way - any suggestions what might be wrong. New to evos and don't even know how stock in good condition should pull.

P.S Sorry for being mystery evo and not coming in, but next time I'll try to be more outgoing , so take it easy on me please

Alright, I'm off to search for the exhaust now.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by alexandru
well, considering what the safc II should do, I need it to be installed good. but you can stop by and assist, which is what I'll also do (I don't trust myself to splice into the ECU wires, yet)
I have an SAFCII in my Eclipse and I had it ‘professionally’ installed for the same reason you’re worried about… it’s such a crucial piece of equipment that can f* up the car if not put in correctly.



One thing you’re probably going to want to do after you get it in, is have the car dyno-tuned; unless you have an egt and afr gauge. I was able to tune mine pretty well at first, but once the FMIC and downpipe went on my car ran like **** until I had it tuned. Just something to think about.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by alexandru
well, considering what the safc II should do, I need it to be installed good. but you can stop by and assist, which is what I'll also do (I don't trust myself to splice into the ECU wires, yet)
C'mon Alex, aren't you a Comp. E. major?!? You've taken circuits by now, soldering some colored wires together should be cake! As long as you have a wiring diagram....
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Old May 4, 2006 | 05:51 AM
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Alright,

It's official, something is wrong with my evo. Remeber my bad time - 15.28 last week at the strip. Well I kept running 14.6 all day today.

Two days ago I have installed Injen Intake and Upper IC pipe. (20 hp proven ), and just kept hitting around the same time. And this time my reaction was good. Almost won $3000 , went to semi-finals on elimination runs they had today.

There was one guy on white evo (he didn't run at all), but he told me that it's pretty bad time considering that my reactions were good and that I had Injen system. He told me I might have a boost leak or something. And I don't know what to do.....

Gonna contact Buschur tomorrow to see if he might help. Gonna order HKS cat-back today and probably ask Buschur to custom tune my Evo and probably order a boost gauge from him. Unless someone has got one local that wants to sell it to me (even the crapiest one), just want to find out how deep in **** I am.

BY the way - any suggestions what might be wrong. New to evos and don't even know how stock in good condition should pull.

P.S Sorry for being mystery evo and not coming in, but next time I'll try to be more outgoing , so take it easy on me please

Alright, I'm off to search for the exhaust now.
OK, first intakes really mess with the Evo unless you are tuned for it. Remove it and put the stocker back on *unless you are tuned for it* You should see some improvements.

Also, I wouldn't throw more parts at the car (i.e. exhaust) until you figure out what's going on in the first place. You will be adding more variables to your efforts in troubleshooting. However, a boost gauge would be helpful.

Good luck
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Old May 4, 2006 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Evolution[OH]
Alright,
It's official, something is wrong with my evo. Remeber my bad time - 15.28 last week at the strip. Well I kept running 14.6 all day today.

Two days ago I have installed Injen Intake and Upper IC pipe. (20 hp proven ), and just kept hitting around the same time. And this time my reaction was good.
Just my thoughts....

First of all, post your time slips....what was your 60's...reaction times....trap speeds...that will help us deduce what's going wrong. Although you should be running better than mid-14s, running mid to low 13s on a stock Evo 8 is what Car & Driver professional drivers run....not recreational drag strip enthusiasts...

Second, UICP (upper intercooler piping) + LICP (lower intercooler piping) will NOT add 20hp....they will help flow but you'll be lucky if they add 5whp...on a dynojet. And typically this is tuned WITH supporting mods....

Thirdly, if you're just starting to mod your car, I would start off with the bolt-ons that pay immediate dividends first. You're going for a catback which is a great starter. I'd then finish off the TBE (turboback exhaust) with a downpipe and test pipe/high flow cat. Boost controller is a must as stock boost tapers from 20 down to like 15-16lbs. Finally get a proper tune so that you're timing and air/fuel is adjusted for those mods.

Originally Posted by Evolution[OH]
P.S Sorry for being mystery evo and not coming in, but next time I'll try to be more outgoing , so take it easy on me please .
Don't worry about it, it's intimidating coming out for the first time and meeting ppl who all know each other already. Ask dadrive about his first meet last year....'I'm too cool to come out of my car and talk to the car group standing 10 ft away'
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Old May 4, 2006 | 06:24 AM
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My one-and-only drag strip experience was just as horrific. I had a great reaction time, but I bogged the car real bad and ended up running 14-some seconds. The crucial figure is the 60-foot, not the reaction.

If you did multiple runs, it's likely that your clutch disk got progressively hotter, thus diminishing its gripping power. Can you feel it starting to slip? Also, hook up a boost gauge and see if you're hitting target boost. Check all hoses and fittings, especially around the stock BOV, and look for leaks.

The intake won't help much unless it's tuned. Before I got mine tuned, an intake and catback actually made the car SLOWER. An ECU flash alone can probably add 20whp.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LilJapnBoy

Second, UICP (upper intercooler piping) + LICP (lower intercooler piping) will NOT add 20hp....they will help flow but you'll be lucky if they add 5whp...on a dynojet. And typically this is tuned WITH supporting mods....
I agree. Hard I/C piping will add very little power; what it does is give the car better throttle response, thus, tweaking the power curve itself a tad. The stock rubbery-weave piping will flex when put under boost which hurts response some.



IMO, there are a lot of similarly priced mods that will help your car a lot more than hard IC piping
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Old May 4, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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I didn't say just the UIC would add 20 hp. Injen said the whole system would (intake system + UICP). But I agree that it should be tuned, that's why I'm going to call Buschur right now.

By the way no boost gauges laying around? Anybody?
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Old May 4, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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If you need someone who doesn't know what they are doing to help you, I'm your man
I'll vouch for that!

JK. Kevin's a good helper. And it's always nice when the guy helping you buys some parts off ya too.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Evolution[OH]
Alright,

It's official, something is wrong with my evo. Remeber my bad time - 15.28 last week at the strip. Well I kept running 14.6 all day today.

Two days ago I have installed Injen Intake and Upper IC pipe. (20 hp proven ), and just kept hitting around the same time. And this time my reaction was good. Almost won $3000 , went to semi-finals on elimination runs they had today.

There was one guy on white evo (he didn't run at all), but he told me that it's pretty bad time considering that my reactions were good and that I had Injen system. He told me I might have a boost leak or something. And I don't know what to do.....

Gonna contact Buschur tomorrow to see if he might help. Gonna order HKS cat-back today and probably ask Buschur to custom tune my Evo and probably order a boost gauge from him. Unless someone has got one local that wants to sell it to me (even the crapiest one), just want to find out how deep in **** I am.

BY the way - any suggestions what might be wrong. New to evos and don't even know how stock in good condition should pull.

P.S Sorry for being mystery evo and not coming in, but next time I'll try to be more outgoing , so take it easy on me please

Alright, I'm off to search for the exhaust now.
Hey, I'm the guy with the blue STI that was talking to you last night and giving you pointers.

Anyways, I don't think there is anything wrong with your car. I watched you race against your buddy in the Prelude and honestly, you can't launch the car at 2000RPM's or less, which is what it sounded like you were doing. When the clutch is in, you have a soft relimiter at like 5500RPM.....just peg it on there and slip the clutch. I'd venture to say that your 60fts. were no better than 2.2. You should be in the 1.8-1.7 second range. I was hitting 1.68's last night.

Now, on to mods.....I would look at Buschur's turboback and intake setup and then get a reflash...basically their stage 1 and 2 kits and its only going to cost a few more bucks than that HKS Carbon-Ti catback you want.

Tim
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
I'll vouch for that!

JK. Kevin's a good helper. And it's always nice when the guy helping you buys some parts off ya too.
Hey man, I try to help out in every way I can (which isn't very many ways)

Plus, where else am I gonna buy all the best "rice" for my car? And not just any rice, USED rice.

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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SloRice
Hey, I'm the guy with the blue STI that was talking to you last night and giving you pointers.

Anyways, I don't think there is anything wrong with your car. I watched you race against your buddy in the Prelude and honestly, you can't launch the car at 2000RPM's or less, which is what it sounded like you were doing. When the clutch is in, you have a soft relimiter at like 5500RPM.....just peg it on there and slip the clutch. I'd venture to say that your 60fts. were no better than 2.2. You should be in the 1.8-1.7 second range. I was hitting 1.68's last night.

Now, on to mods.....I would look at Buschur's turboback and intake setup and then get a reflash...basically their stage 1 and 2 kits and its only going to cost a few more bucks than that HKS Carbon-Ti catback you want.

Tim
Thanks for pointers....

But I did launch at 5000 rpms yesterday. It's wasn't under 2k for sure. I don't know, but buscher's is too loud for me. I find HKS better. But I'm going to take my evo to buschur's on the 19th. Al is going to be out there and I'll get custom tune after installing the cat-back.
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