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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Selecting Neutral with the Paddles?

Is it possible to tune / change the software in the SST to allow us to select Neutral by pulling both paddles simultaneously, like some of the exotic SMG transmissions?

It would be nice to be able to quickly grab neutral with the paddles at stop lights rather than staying in first. I assume when the car is stopped, and the gear indicator is showing 1st, the car is in fact still in first and the computer is slipping the clutches similar a torque converter automatic held under the stall speed?

If I'm at a really long light, or a train crossing or something I will use the console gear shift and put it in neutral, but then I have to put the lever back into manual mode to take off, and I'd rather be able to just grab neutral with the paddles, and then be able to paddle an upshift to grab first and drive away.

Anyone ever looked into this?
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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I was thinking this would be nice too, although I've not looked into it. At a stop, 1st gear is selected but the clutches are only slipping significantly when you are depressed on the brake. If you release the brake gradually, you'll notice that the car doesn't start to creep until you are almost off the pedal. There may be some slippage still, but not very significantly.

Being able to get neutral may be nice if you've spun out and are rolling backwards, for example, but because the paddles don't rotate with the steering wheel, I'm not sure if it'll be easy for anyone to grab both paddles in an emergency situation!
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 01:24 AM
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 03:33 AM
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Isn't it at a FULL stop with fully depressed brake pedal the car goes in neutral?
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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Kozmic27,

Can you confirm if the transmission does in fact shift into neutral at a full stop with a firm brake pedal? Does it do this in all modes, Normal, Sport, S-Sport, Auto or Manual?

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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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Old Jul 11, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MR. EVO MR
Isn't it at a FULL stop with fully depressed brake pedal the car goes in neutral?
that's what I though.
every time i brake and let go, the car tends to roll back then move forward
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Old Jul 16, 2013 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MR. EVO MR
Isn't it at a FULL stop with fully depressed brake pedal the car goes in neutral?
The clutches depressurized is neutral. There is always at least one gear engaged. It doesn't have the same kind of neutral as a conventional manual. It just doesn't port any pressure to the clutches, then the little springs keep them open.

The TCU looks for a momentary ground signal through the the switches on the paddles. The momentary ground on the right paddle tells the transmission to up shift. Ground on the left paddle tells it to down. There is only one switch per paddle. The sensor that selects "neutral" is actually inside the transmission and is operated by the cable from the shift lever.
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 09:54 AM
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Thanks for the reply Kozmic.

So is it beneficial to use the console shifter to select "neutral" as opposed to just holding the car with the brakes? Or does the TCU see the car is stopped and via speed sensors and brake pedal application, and select "neutral" without the driver even knowing it?

Thanks again.
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