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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Driving around cones help

I did my first SCCA run for fun this past December, and I can't stop thinking about it. I did very well on my first time out (I attribute it all to the car), but could not for the life of me, get that thing to go around the 180 degree turns. I wanted to slide it around like a RWD car, then someone suggested putting the ACD on SNOW, take the turn wide, slide it into first, and power slide the thing around the corner. I did that, got a better time, but took six cones with me, and had 12 seconds added on. Another person at the race mentioned the E_Brake. I'm scared of that one. Anyone have any ideas how I can get back at that 180 degree turn this upcoming season? It's a stock suspension 05 MR with 255/40/17 Kuhmo MXs.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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Its going to sound strange... but slow down.

Dont play tricks, ie powerslides, e-brake, etc.. smooth is fast so be smooth. Your object is to get on the throttle sooner, so slow down enough that when you get to the center, or "tightest" part of the 180' (or any other turn) What is called the apex, you ant to be getting back in the throttle.. if you are still having to turn, or brake, or the car is sliding (usually understeer in a situation like this) then slow down more.

Eventually, when you get to where oyu ave control of the car then you can do things to make it so oyu dont have to slow down as much.. better tires, alignment, suspension upgrades.. etc.

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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Took me an outting or two to learn this in the beginning as well. Jon is right. Slow is fast. In many cases,slowing sooner allows you to get back on the throttle sooner as well.

Hope to get to meet you at some of the ARSCCA events this year and hope you can make it out to Hallett with us as well. It's nice to have another EVO owner in the state since there are only 5 or 6 of us.

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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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There are more Evos in your state than you think, I've driven up to the Ouachitas a couple of times from the Dallas area and will be planning another trip soon. If y'all are interested in meeting some Texas Evo guys for a weekend of fun in the mountains, PM me.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:52 AM
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wow, all my AR homies are here. What's up guys!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 07:04 AM
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Just like the previous advices, smooth is fast. You actually end up losing time doing slides because you are losing traction and not being able to accelerate for the short straight-aways. Most cone courses purposely have lots of turns and less of straights. Gradually build up to knowing when you should brake and accelerate out of the 180 turn or any other corner.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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Another vote for smooth is fast and for slow in, fast out. I've started doing a little left foot braking to get the car to rotate but if I'm at that point it's because I entered the turn too fast.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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Trail-braking, not left foot braking will help you with the tigher turns.

Also, you should at the very least try to make it up to the National Tour and Pro-Solo in Walnut Ridge this year. If you check scca.com, you can see the dates. You don't have to enter, but you should come watch.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Swordfish, I had no idea you had an EVO. We are going to try and have an EVO meet and drive within the next 30 days. Once of the new LRRS member has a black EVO, and his name is Scott. He is getting surgery tomorrow, and while on recovery, he wants to make a plan. If we can all get up it'll
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and you.

I don't really know of any other EVOs in AR.


ON ANOTHER NOTE; thanks all for the info, I'm going to try the slow is fast idea. I've actually heard that before, but didn't think it made sense.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nosjunke
ON ANOTHER NOTE; thanks all for the info, I'm going to try the slow is fast idea. I've actually heard that before, but didn't think it made sense.
"slow is fast" yeah sort of. When entering a corner it is better to go "In slow out fast" That is, brake (hard) and slow down for the corner. That will let you set the car up better so you can get on the gas sooner. This will give you more room to accelerate out of the corner.

Also, be as smooth as possible, especially with the steering inputs, don't jerk the wheen around. Don't slam through the gears, you don't really need to, just get to second gear quickly, and smoothly.

If you keep your driving as smooth as possible, you will be faster.

enjoy!
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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There are a few other evo in NWA. I will be coming down to Little Rock this Friday to have Braden fron Polk tune my AEM EMS. We will go out after and play around with others later that night. If you want to PM me, we could hook up that night.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Here, I posted this at another forum, but it will be usefull to you as well.

Originally Posted by ratt_finkel
Hmmm, let me see if I can find something for you. This might help.

http://www.dmvrscca.org/topten.htm

I'm sure you know some of the below. But there are some good tips half-way down.
http://www.tirerack.com/features/solo2/handbook.htm

Seat time is key, do as many events as possible. Take ride alongs with the "fast" guys. Have them ride with you. Listen listen listen. Take notes, look ahead. Slow in fast out!
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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If you haven't done this already......get an aggressive alignment!

The one from the factory stucks. I run -1.8 up front -1.5 in the rear and zero toe.
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