Slicks on the evo...
Apr 27, 2006, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by housedj
try some advan a032R's b4 going to slicks. they can be heat cycled &/or shaved. got mine from tire rack ($144/each) as they are discontinued. they were replaced by the advan a048. they both have a treadwear of 60. if u want slicks go w/ Hoosiers...
I also Run Advan A048's on my Lotus Elise and I HATE THEM ! RA-1's are 100 times more predictable than the yoko's
Apr 27, 2006, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kingkyle
I think dunlop is the way to go.
But again, the leap from RA-1's to full slicks is huge. Consider the Hoosier R6 or Michelin Pilot Sport Cup as an intermediate step. Either one is dramatically better than the RA-1, which is pretty much the mildest DOT-R compound you can find.
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Apr 27, 2006, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Kayaalp
Consider the Hoosier R6 or Michelin Pilot Sport Cup as an intermediate step. Either one is dramatically better than the RA-1, which is pretty much the mildest DOT-R compound you can find.
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Apr 27, 2006, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by heeltoer
Ok the hoosier will be a dramatic step up but have you actually run the Michelin Pilot Sport Cups? Ive known multiple porsche owners (and driven a turbo and gt3 with this tire) with this tire and all of them agree that this is comparable to a shaved RA1. Highly doubtful the MPSC is comparable to a hoosier, get them only if its a smoking deal.
Personally, I still run RA-1's on my track car (and even run street tires sometimes). The point that most people seem to forget is that driving schools and lapping are meant to be FUN. It's not a race. I would gladly trade that last bit of speed if it means not having to deal with fussy equipment. I have just as much fun sliding the Evo around on street tires as I do running my track car on shaved DOT-R rubber.
Frankly, I don't see the point of even Hoosier's (let alone race slicks) in a driving school or lapping setting. If you're competing, then that's a different story. I prefer to drive to the track, run hard all day, work with my students, enjoy my few sessions, then pack up and drive home. Even the idea of trailering an Evo to the track strikes me as mildly absurd. Half the fun is the drive to and from the track!
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Apr 27, 2006, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kayaalp
My experience with the PSC has been on an E46 M3 with full Ground-Control suspension and various Porsches (GT3 and 996 C2). I definitely found them stickier than RA-1's, but not as good as Hoosiers. But compared to the Hoosiers, they're much less sensitive to abuse and last quite a bit longer.
Personally, I still run RA-1's on my track car (and even run street tires sometimes). The point that most people seem to forget is that driving schools and lapping are meant to be FUN. It's not a race. I would gladly trade that last bit of speed if it means not having to deal with fussy equipment. I have just as much fun sliding the Evo around on street tires as I do running my track car on shaved DOT-R rubber.
Frankly, I don't see the point of even Hoosier's (let alone race slicks) in a driving school or lapping setting. If you're competing, then that's a different story. I prefer to drive to the track, run hard all day, work with my students, enjoy my few sessions, then pack up and drive home. Even the idea of trailering an Evo to the track strikes me as mildly absurd. Half the fun is the drive to and from the track!
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Personally, I still run RA-1's on my track car (and even run street tires sometimes). The point that most people seem to forget is that driving schools and lapping are meant to be FUN. It's not a race. I would gladly trade that last bit of speed if it means not having to deal with fussy equipment. I have just as much fun sliding the Evo around on street tires as I do running my track car on shaved DOT-R rubber.
Frankly, I don't see the point of even Hoosier's (let alone race slicks) in a driving school or lapping setting. If you're competing, then that's a different story. I prefer to drive to the track, run hard all day, work with my students, enjoy my few sessions, then pack up and drive home. Even the idea of trailering an Evo to the track strikes me as mildly absurd. Half the fun is the drive to and from the track!
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I totally agree with you on the RA-1's for trackdays... I do run them on a regular basis... but for "FUN" I would like to run a full slick toward the end of this season in an EMRA time trial. They dont have any tire requirements. I win my class now with RA-1's ... but I want to see what the EVO can do with race slicks and see if i can beat the 58-59 sec formula cars at LRP
I'm really only trying to up the bar in evo performance. ...
Apr 27, 2006, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by kingkyle
Thanks for all the good info. What series do you race in?
Originally Posted by kingkyle
I totally agree with you on the RA-1's for trackdays... I do run them on a regular basis... but for "FUN" I would like to run a full slick toward the end of this season in an EMRA time trial. They dont have any tire requirements. I win my class now with RA-1's ... but I want to see what the EVO can do with race slicks and see if i can beat the 58-59 sec formula cars at LRP
I'm really only trying to up the bar in evo performance. ...
I'm really only trying to up the bar in evo performance. ...Emre
Apr 30, 2006, 06:09 AM
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We run the Dunlops on the gt3cup cars. We buy them from sasco, the source you already found 
The yokohama's are going to be faster for about 3 laps but then they will start to fall off by quite a bit. They also don't seem to have any shelf like, so once they are used they will not be a good tire to run again a few days or a week later. All slicks are going to wear much faster than a DOT tire but the Dunlop is probably the best all arouind slick for speed an longevity.
The yokohama's are going to be faster for about 3 laps but then they will start to fall off by quite a bit. They also don't seem to have any shelf like, so once they are used they will not be a good tire to run again a few days or a week later. All slicks are going to wear much faster than a DOT tire but the Dunlop is probably the best all arouind slick for speed an longevity.
Mar 1, 2016, 04:25 AM
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Yup
I prefer to drive my Evo to the track, then swap wheels and tires in the paddock. Enjoy the best of both worlds. Plus, the only reason to go slicks is if you are going out doing PDX (advanced) and are planning to go to competition school soon and want to really push it. Other than that, just run Advan III or Pilot SS and enjoy the thrill of stepping the *** out in corners with more control than any RWD fanboy could ever imagine.
My experience with the PSC has been on an E46 M3 with full Ground-Control suspension and various Porsches (GT3 and 996 C2). I definitely found them stickier than RA-1's, but not as good as Hoosiers. But compared to the Hoosiers, they're much less sensitive to abuse and last quite a bit longer.
Personally, I still run RA-1's on my track car (and even run street tires sometimes). The point that most people seem to forget is that driving schools and lapping are meant to be FUN. It's not a race. I would gladly trade that last bit of speed if it means not having to deal with fussy equipment. I have just as much fun sliding the Evo around on street tires as I do running my track car on shaved DOT-R rubber.
Frankly, I don't see the point of even Hoosier's (let alone race slicks) in a driving school or lapping setting. If you're competing, then that's a different story. I prefer to drive to the track, run hard all day, work with my students, enjoy my few sessions, then pack up and drive home. Even the idea of trailering an Evo to the track strikes me as mildly absurd. Half the fun is the drive to and from the track!
Emre
Personally, I still run RA-1's on my track car (and even run street tires sometimes). The point that most people seem to forget is that driving schools and lapping are meant to be FUN. It's not a race. I would gladly trade that last bit of speed if it means not having to deal with fussy equipment. I have just as much fun sliding the Evo around on street tires as I do running my track car on shaved DOT-R rubber.
Frankly, I don't see the point of even Hoosier's (let alone race slicks) in a driving school or lapping setting. If you're competing, then that's a different story. I prefer to drive to the track, run hard all day, work with my students, enjoy my few sessions, then pack up and drive home. Even the idea of trailering an Evo to the track strikes me as mildly absurd. Half the fun is the drive to and from the track!
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Mar 10, 2016, 08:48 PM
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the old michelin porsche cup n1 front slick were a perfect fit on the evo with a 9.5" rim. since the latest version of the gt3 came out and they went to a slightly wider tyre i think they may still fit. the porsche series down here has just switched to pirelli and i havnt managed to get my hands on a set yet.
Guys down here run michelins, hankooks, kuhmo, pirelli on their evo's. might pay to drop into a proper motorsport based garage that does race prep and have a word to them. preferably somebody who preps GT3 spec cars e.g porsche, lamborghini etc.
Guys down here run michelins, hankooks, kuhmo, pirelli on their evo's. might pay to drop into a proper motorsport based garage that does race prep and have a word to them. preferably somebody who preps GT3 spec cars e.g porsche, lamborghini etc.
Mar 11, 2016, 05:51 PM
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I debated that but at 2000 a set I shy'd away from them, on top of the fact that once you even touch a hint of grass or any "sub optimal" grip surface you may as well be on ice. Add in that michi thinks that the BFG tire is more to "our level" so they don't even offer a contingency under the michi umbrella. Fastest tire in perfect conditions no doubt, but just not worth the effort.
Mar 12, 2016, 09:24 PM
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I debated that but at 2000 a set I shy'd away from them, on top of the fact that once you even touch a hint of grass or any "sub optimal" grip surface you may as well be on ice. Add in that michi thinks that the BFG tire is more to "our level" so they don't even offer a contingency under the michi umbrella. Fastest tire in perfect conditions no doubt, but just not worth the effort.
Youll be surprised how many of the bigger budget racers will discard a set thats only 20% worn cause they have lost their optimum edge.
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