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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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I highly doubt that StopTech replaces the OEM hubs in their kits.

Here's how you can figure out if the 332mm kit will fit your stock wheels:

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/ch...22-2450-01.pdf
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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I remember starting researching this a while back... my current setup has treated me good for over a year of hard lapping.

PF 2 pece rotors
PF97 pads
SS lines
motul 600
power engineering ducts (what forge used to base their ducts from)

so far.. well, I am still on my same rotors & have only gone through 2 sets of pads.

lucky?

Next on the list are Alcon 6 pots ($$$), but that will have to wait until I got a cage in the car.

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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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Driving style has to do with it too probably... brake less.. ha ha

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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Herk
In addition to the proper brake cooling ducts, what about a recirculator ?
...did everyone ignore this? I've never heard of such a thing. Think it works? Oh btw: I'm in the same boat. I'm about to buy new cryo'd rotors, pads, fluid, lines cuz I nuked em all at my last HPDE.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by nils
Driving style has to do with it too probably... brake less.. ha ha

n
There is something to be said for this
The stock brakes with some subtle upgrades are really very good.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nils
Next on the list are Alcon 6 pots ($$$), but that will have to wait until I got a cage in the car.

n
that's what i run and these are the first set of brakes on any car i've tracked that haven't given me some sort of problems. unfortunately i still catch myself checking that pedal going into some corners i think it's been ingrained from all those days with lousy brake setups

the only complaint i have about the alcons, period, is that you have to pull the caliper to swap pads. since it's a monoblock there isn't any access to them from the top.
small price to pay for confidence though.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nils
Driving style has to do with it too probably... brake less.. ha ha

n
+1

Also, here's a little DIY solution. Don't worry if you can't read the language, just look at the pictures. http://www.s-kbc.com/newpage24.html
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by smack_evo
the only complaint i have about the alcons, period, is that you have to pull the caliper to swap pads. since it's a monoblock there isn't any access to them from the top.
small price to pay for confidence though.
one of my concerns too, but like you said... a good trade for brake performance.

btw - OT - I tracked an Elise last week and holy macrimoly were the brakes insane on that low weight thing. I could dive bomb like crazy in that thing.. lol.. Made me realize how we need better brakes on our cars.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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+1

Also, here's a little DIY solution. Don't worry if you can't read the language, just look at the pictures. http://www.s-kbc.com/newpage24.html

interesting.. reminds me of the kevlar pieces they put in wheel wells of jgtc cars to scrape off rubber marbles... the question is how much airflow does that thing ****** up since it exists in a low pressure area.

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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by nils
btw - OT - I tracked an Elise last week and holy macrimoly were the brakes insane on that low weight thing. I could dive bomb like crazy in that thing.. lol.. Made me realize how we need better brakes on our cars.

You should try a Caterham some time
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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You should try a Caterham some time
rub it in.... h aha

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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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...did everyone ignore this? I've never heard of such a thing. Think it works? Oh btw: I'm in the same boat. I'm about to buy new cryo'd rotors, pads, fluid, lines cuz I nuked em all at my last HPDE.
Not many people doing hpde's use it, so you won't hear about it much for the weekend warrior type of person(couple levels above me). I read about it over at corner-carvers and a few people use it.

It seems to be pretty easy to install, cheap, and recirculates the fluid with about every 6 pedal presses. And it bleeds while it works.

I don't know if it interferes with ABS or anything, so whenever I finally decide to install one, I'll be sure to ask many questions with the manufacturer.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
Will this kit work with stock 17" wheels? How much better are the included calipers than the stock brembos?
This kit will work with the stock wheels.

The included calipers are on par with the stock bits (that is to say very good). However they use radial mount bolts for the extension unlike most other kits which us axial bolts. That reduces caliper flex. They also weigh significantly less.

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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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Just to chime in with Redevolution....
I run the RacingBrake BBK with HAwk DTC-60 pads, and I have no trouble at all. I am a fairly fast driver, competitive in NASA Time Trial in Norcal (second in TTA last Event), and I am HARD on the brakes, and drive at tracks where the braking is fairly intensive. I can honestly say I have not experienced a moment of fade in 10 events running RB Rotors with Motul 600 fluid and either Hawk or Carbotech Pads. I experienced a little trouble in my last evnt with ATE fluid, and I'll never use it again. Yes, there are several manufacturers of 2-piece kits, but I am fond of RacingBrake due to the attention to detail, availability to the customer, and light weight and durability. The two piece rotors I had on the car previous tot he ones that came with the BBK had 9 events on them, and they are STILL within spec...the slots are still deep and visable. So, choose what you will, but there is my anecdotal assessment of what works for me.


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Originally Posted by redvolution
This kit will work with the stock wheels.

The included calipers are on par with the stock bits (that is to say very good). However they use radial mount bolts for the extension unlike most other kits which us axial bolts. That reduces caliper flex. They also weigh significantly less.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nils
interesting.. reminds me of the kevlar pieces they put in wheel wells of jgtc cars to scrape off rubber marbles... the question is how much airflow does that thing ****** up since it exists in a low pressure area.

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Probably not a huge amount, but I guess it's better than not having it and it looks pretty simple. I'd give it a try but I already have a mitsu piece (plastic)..
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