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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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^ i agree with you, Fisi should have give up the position once Michael got in front of him, not to mention that Michael would have the inside line for the next corner and would have passed him there anyways. fortune could have turned the other way, Michael could have ran over Fisi’s front wing breaking it off while Michael drive off unharmed. if that happened, it would be disaster for Renault as far as Constructer’s Championship goes. so, Fisi risked it just as much as Michael did.

I just hope new rules like single tires manufacture, single ECU manufacture and no engine development for 3 years will not make F1 lame for the next few years. F1 to me is about development in motor sport technology and with these new rules in effect, that will definitely hinder development.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by timzcat
Wow are your eyes that bad?
If Fisichella's front wing end plate is what hit schumacher's rear tire then how in the world is the pass not executed? Fisichella intentionally kept his nose in an attempt to cause a problem. OF course it is hard to blame Fisichella because he has poor car control as evident by the second time he was passed by Schumacher. Conversely, Raikkonen has car control so he knew he could stick in there and not hit the other driver even though he knew he was stuck on the outside in the corner.
I think it was a 'racing incident' and that's that. The basically did it to each other and it was 50/50 who was going to come out on top and such is the nature of the front of the grid. While Alonso could afford to relax a little more, Michael has it all to do. As for Fisi, next year he's going to be the lead driver for the team and I don't think his life will be very enjoyable if he somehow let Michael through and Renault ended up, somehow losing the championship. Remember it was relatively early on in the race and no one could have predicted much at that point.

If you look at it another way, Renault would have been perfectly happy if Fisi and Michael took each other out. It was possible that Fisi was to do all that is necessary.

I don't think accidents are particular to Michael's driving. I have not looked at statistics but it just doesn't appear that way to me. You don't win 7 drivers titles and 91GP's be driving into other people. If that was the case Takuma Sato would have won 10 drivers titles by now. It's just how much he wants to win - and that's a truck load more than say Barrichello, Fisichella, Button and Truli. All of them are fantastic drivers, but need to be woken up be the team regularly.

One has to remember that Michael hasn't always been in a faster car. For many of this 7 titles the Ferrari was not as far ahead of its competitors in the way the Renaults have been in the last 2 years. In fact, for a good number of them, Michael was in an arguably inferior car.

If you just look at the past 2 years, the Renaults have been waaay ahead of the others. Back at the Australian GP, you'd never imagine anyone putting up a sesious challenge. The reason Ferrari are in such a strong position near the end of the season isn't just development but also because Michael (and Massa to some extent) gave it 110% all the time everytime. Michael has been playing catch up for the past 2 years and when you push that hard mistakes are virtually a given. Considering how well he's done, it's more than remarkable.

I'm not taking anything away from Fernando. I've been saying great things about him since his Minardi days. I just think he's been rather fortunate to be with Renault. Next year should be interesting.

P.s. I don't think Kimi is in too much trouble next year. The engines are frozen so engine development isn't really going to be much of an issue. obviously losnig Ross Brawn isn't the best thing for them but I'm sure they're a competent enough to sort themselves out.
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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Oh I do not argue that it was Fisichella's job to keep Schumacher at bay and he did just that. I was just suprised that some people felt there was no intent involved in the whole situation.

I agree that you can see the real talent when the Michelins are leading the time charts but somehow Schumacher is right up there when the next closest Bridgestone shod car is 13th.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 02:57 AM
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Oh I do not argue that it was Fisichella's job to keep Schumacher at bay and he did just that. I was just suprised that some people felt there was no intent involved in the whole situation.
That's sadly been a typical response for the past 8 years of F1. Whenever Michael got into an accdent with somebody else, it's instantly his fault no matter what happened. It's probably a throwback to the days when the British press were trying to vilify Schumacher for doing all sorts of horrible things to poor old Damon Hill and a rathe retarded singer/songwriter from Canada. Ever since then, I doubt anyone would be surprised if they said Michael ate babies for breakfast and beat up old people for kicks. And that's another side of Schumacher that I admire. He knows full well what perceptions are of him and his driving but he just kept his head down and let his driving do the talking rather than shooting his mouth off like JV.

The opposite is happening to Button. He's a very talented driver but really they're making him out to be some kind of golden boy. He's talented, yes but he really needs to push it more. There are others who aren't as good but are making up for it by simply wanting it a heck of a lot more than him. He can be great but only if he is prepared to work for it. No matter how many praises he reveices only results will keep them coming and he doesn't have that many years left in him to avoid becoming a DC.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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Carlos you don't actually watch the f1 races do you? cause clearly, shumacher is far and away the best driver on the grid. results and championships show a little (maybe thats why MS has 7 championships), but his pure ability to dial the car into whatever situation he needs is outstanding.

carlos = alanzo fanboy.

and we'll see what happens next year, but i suspect your man is going to be plagued by mechanical problems and a flat out slower car. raikkonnen did a great job with a ****ty car, and now with one of the best cars, i think he will be unbeatable. raikkonnen and massa with clean house next year. they just so happen to have quite a few years running bridgestone tires at all the tracks, while mclaren, renault, honda, are all going to be switching tires. if that isn't an advantage for ferrari then i don't know what is
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