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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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See below.. I double posted by accident.

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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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Nascar door bars are much higher at the "waist" than X or drop in style bars so I don't see how it's harder.

I like the Acura!

OMP cages are about $1400 for the entry level cage. Really nice though. OMP charges you shipping from IT to USA which adds significantly to the cost. Your money goes further with the Custom Cages cage in my direct experience. I have a Custom Cages cage in my car.

Can anyone comment on the rumors about Ladder style bar requirements in 2007? I see in the rulebook no such mention but I'd like to know why there is/was such a buzz.

I feel that your comments about T boning at speed are offbase given the speed differential between a speeding car at X speed and a tree at zero, which is immobile in comparison to two moving cars. The impact would in "loose" theory, be much greater thus the increased demand for a good cage.

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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsurara
Who cares? I just want to know what you think is wrong with the cage.

does it fit perfect?.. can i move one bar 3" to the left if i want?.. can my nascar door bars reach the down tube thats on it?

like i said.. tubing and bending is cheap.. why not just have it made while its being welded in?
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bimmubishi

I feel that your comments about T boning at speed are offbase given the speed differential between a speeding car at X speed and a tree at zero, which is immobile in comparison to two moving cars. The impact would in "loose" theory, be much greater thus the increased demand for a good cage.

cars spin and get stuck sideways on track.. same diff... you worry about getting HIT in the side.. not hitting something wiht your side.

and the speed differential in some scca classes is HUGE.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bimmubishi
Can anyone comment on the rumors about Ladder style bar requirements in 2007? I see in the rulebook no such mention but I'd like to know why there is/was such a buzz. .

again.. what class.. SS says an X is ok... touring wants NASCAR on drivers side

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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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We already covered this on page 2.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Cages are designed for helmet use ONLY. They are not safe to drive around on the street, so your car should be towed or trailored. Yes I know some people drive around with cages on the street and they are ignoring their own safety. So if you are considering a full cage, then you should also know that your car is now a dedicated trailored race car and not at all capable of street duty.
This doesn't add much to this thread but what the hell.

I drove mmoranda's (photos on page 1 in this thread) car back from Thunderhill one day after blowing up my transmission. He was kind enough to trailer my car back for me and I can't thank him enough.

It scared me shiatless to drive that car back from the track on major freeways. I had the harness on extra tight and more then a couple times I almost stopped so I could get my helmet out of my car on the trailer to wear on the street. I was paranoid the whole drive home.

Looking back, it was probably a really stupid thing to do because you never know what might happen. If a car had hit me on the way home I would probably be a vegetable right now or dead. A real cage has bars pretty damn close to your head and even the harness wouldn't stop your head from contacting them and splitting open like a melon.

That said, thanks again Marshall!
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bimmubishi
Nascar door bars are much higher at the "waist" than X or drop in style bars so I don't see how it's harder.

I like the Acura!

OMP cages are about $1400 for the entry level cage. Really nice though. OMP charges you shipping from IT to USA which adds significantly to the cost. Your money goes further with the Custom Cages cage in my direct experience. I have a Custom Cages cage in my car.

Can anyone comment on the rumors about Ladder style bar requirements in 2007? I see in the rulebook no such mention but I'd like to know why there is/was such a buzz.

I feel that your comments about T boning at speed are offbase given the speed differential between a speeding car at X speed and a tree at zero, which is immobile in comparison to two moving cars. The impact would in "loose" theory, be much greater thus the increased demand for a good cage.
A bit O/T, but do you have any pics of your Custom Cages cage? Are you happy with it? How was fitment?

I need to eventually get a Rally America legal cage, and CC is probably the way I'm leaning, but haven't heard of anyone with first-hand experience.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bimmubishi
We already covered this on page 2.

then you should be smart enough to find it right there in the GCR.. under "TOURING"... 9.4.2.F

F. Side Protection:
Two side protection tubes (door bars) are mandatory on each side of the car. NASCAR-style side protection is required on the driver’s side and is optional on the passenger side. The driver’s window safety net may be mounted to this side protection and the top cage tube. NASCAR-style side protection tubes shall extend into the door. The door window glass, window operating mechanism, inner door trim panel, armrest, map pockets, and inside door latch/lock operating mechanism may be removed only if it interfered with the installation of NASCAR-style side protection tubes. The inner door structural panel may be modified, but not removed to facilitate this type of side protection. The stock side impact beam and the outside door latch/lock operating mechanism shall not be removed or modified.





you always do NASCAR bars on touring so you can pull the windows and mechs from the door.

but ive guess youve covered that already somewhere also huh?
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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http://www.swracecars.com/pdf/CATpg20.pdf

You might try them. I have not but was planing on doing so...
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mrcox
http://www.swracecars.com/pdf/CATpg20.pdf

You might try them. I have not but was planing on doing so...

no diagonal brace through the main hoop..
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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So this car will not be 2007 compliant?

I couldn't find that rule you posted but I appreciate the clarification.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bimmubishi
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So this car will not be 2007 compliant?

I couldn't find that rule you posted but I appreciate the clarification.

whats weird is that the equivilent rule fomr the 2005 GCR says the exact same thing.


"NASCAR-style side protection is required on the driver’s side and is optional on the passenger side. "

call your comp comittee chair and ask them.. the GCR makes no sense in a LOT of places.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Looks like if a racer has a logbook acquired prior to Jan 2008 then the X brace or the double drop bar is allowed and will be grandfathered but anything registered/tech'ed after that will require the driver side ladder bar and optional pass.

Thanks to CJ for that clarification!

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