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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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The 285's will fit stock suspension. We did a quicky test fit here at an autox last year. You will need a spacer up front 5-10mm, but they do fit. This is with V710 285/30 on an 18x9.5 +35 offset. Obviously some fender rolling will be required.

Problem is (w/stock suspension) you have so much grip that body roll creates problems with maintaining a good contact patch. Kind of negates the bigger tire.

broeli,
Problem with running big rear swaybar on the evo is you tend to ruin rear droop travel. The swaybar doesn't really help mid corner balance anyway, so IMO tuning with springs/alignment is more effective.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Sounds like I need some V710's. I've never tried fitment with V710's. I don't think there is any way the Hoosiers would fit with simple lowering springs...even with spacers. With a +24 offset I clear the brakes and everything fine but even with the top strut bolt flipped out and using the camber plates only for camber the 285 Hoosier sits right up against and rubs the 2.5" diameter coilover spring. I guess the V710 has a smaller section width.

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I agree with what you say. Most people run a bigger swaybar though not knowing what exactly it does. If they go by the thinking they automatically need higher spring rates..on top of the bigger bar they already have it kind of negates the use of either. Either use the stock swaybar and tune the suspension with a +2 rear or use a bigger rear swaybar without adding 2k in the rear.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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I agree with the stock suspension and body roll... but I didnt mean I wanted to run 285's with stock stuff. I was thinking more like lowering springs and a nice set of adjustable struts (like I have now) untill I can get the coil overs...... then again, If I did switch cars, I might just go with the coil overs from the get go and save the headach of doing the job twice.

thanks everyone for you help.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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they don't make adjustable struts...get a good set of coilovers and call it a day...
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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.... he he he... again showing my RX-8 experiance, and lack of knowlage for the Evo...... I am a quick learner though.

you got it!
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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so back to autox tires ehhh...haha
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by broeli
Sounds like I need some V710's. I've never tried fitment with V710's. I don't think there is any way the Hoosiers would fit with simple lowering springs...even with spacers. With a +24 offset I clear the brakes and everything fine but even with the top strut bolt flipped out and using the camber plates only for camber the 285 Hoosier sits right up against and rubs the 2.5" diameter coilover spring. I guess the V710 has a smaller section width.
Mind posting your wheel size/offset? Curious since I want to make the switch to A6's this year. Ran a 10mm spacer last year up front and had plenty of room. Hell the V710's didn't even touch the spring perch/spring without a spacer. I ran the spacer mostly for extra track width and clearance of course.

Speeddemon32,
Lowering springs will help if you run 285's. Real problem again is controlling body roll. Most of the aftermarket lowering springs aren't much stiffer than stock, so all you really gain is a lower CG. You will be more likely to hit bumpstops and probably won't lose the tendency to hike the inside rear. Without camber pates in the front you are limited to less than -2.0 deg.

Kinda sounds like a pain having to spend the $$, but with a good coilover and 285's these cars really kick ***.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kekek
Mind posting your wheel size/offset? Curious since I want to make the switch to A6's this year. Ran a 10mm spacer last year up front and had plenty of room. Hell the V710's didn't even touch the spring perch/spring without a spacer. I ran the spacer mostly for extra track width and clearance of course.

Speeddemon32,
Lowering springs will help if you run 285's. Real problem again is controlling body roll. Most of the aftermarket lowering springs aren't much stiffer than stock, so all you really gain is a lower CG. You will be more likely to hit bumpstops and probably won't lose the tendency to hike the inside rear. Without camber pates in the front you are limited to less than -2.0 deg.

Kinda sounds like a pain having to spend the $$, but with a good coilover and 285's these cars really kick ***.
to add to what kekek says here, lowering springs also dramatically affect your roll center which is more important than maintaining the CG. Lowering the car without addressing the change in roll center will make the car handle worse.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kekek
Mind posting your wheel size/offset? Curious since I want to make the switch to A6's this year. Ran a 10mm spacer last year up front and had plenty of room. Hell the V710's didn't even touch the spring perch/spring without a spacer. I ran the spacer mostly for extra track width and clearance of course.
I have 18x9.5 Forgeline ZX3R's and run a +24 offset in front and +36 in the rear. They were made to clear everything without spacers but the Hoosiers are just a tad wide...so Forgeline custom made a set of spacers for me when I took it to their shop for fitment testing and we couldn't get enough clearance away from the spring. The only issue was in the front. The Hoosier has a huge lip/rim protector that creates all the problems. They come out probably 1/4" past the lip of the rim on each side.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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It suprises me how many differant setups (offsets) I have seen here.

Thanks for the info everyone!!
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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ok I am an idiot.... I didnt htink +38 sounded right. I have +45mm :/


sorry for making a tire thread a wheel thread.... I'll shut up now.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Speeddemon32
ok I am an idiot.... I didnt htink +38 sounded right. I have +45mm :/


sorry for making a tire thread a wheel thread.... I'll shut up now.


Sounds like your RX-8 would be BSP prepped... I've yet to see a well done RX-8, and I'd love to see how well it would fare against the C4, S2k, Evo, etc al. It's got weight and tire size fitment (so I understand, prove me wrong) going for it.
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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yes I run BSP. I have Koni struts, Sprint springs, Racing beat sway bars, you already know about the wheels and tires, K&N intake, ACT light flywheel, UR light pulleys..... I think thats about it, besides the alignment.

I do ok. I am only just starting my second year. the people that I run against are not to hard to beat as it is just not a real strong class, so I do very well..... but thats not sayin much.

Jason Isley which is the 05 and 06 Nationals BS champion still beats me in his stock car. this last race I was under a second slower then him. he is a fenomanal driverthough. I would love to see how he does in my car against some of the tougher BSP cars. I bet he would do very well!

in my region there is a red BSP Evo that I have yet to run against. (he seems to run in higher classes even though he is a BSP car. but have not had the chance to run heads up against him. (although I will at the end of this month at the Pro Solo) I know he will kill me, but will be neat to see by how much. I am sure you knwo who he is, I saw him on here the other day. he has the red evo with the big wing. I know he went to nationals. I think his avatar is his car on the cover of a magazine.....

anyways, point of the story is I need to become a better driver, and my compedators need to be tougher.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Speeddemon32
anyways, point of the story is I need to become a better driver, and my compedators need to be tougher.
Glad you realize that. Seat time under pressure will force you to push harder all of the time and make all your runs important. Find some people you are very competitive with (close times) and push each other at every event. Also find yourself a benchmark in your class to aim for. Don't be afraid to jump around in different classes locally either, go where the competition is. You can run BSP, SM or a Pro class if you have one.

If you are doing this locally it should make big events easier since you will be used to dealing with a bit of pressure.

Has helped me anyway.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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+1. That's why we have an X class locally so that people can compete against all the best drivers in one indexed class. I'm going to run that class this year to prepare for Nats. It's also setup so that only the first 3 runs count, so it's good preparation.
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