Wow-how about getting this crap out of the motorsports section.

My 2 cents and then please move to OT!

MRinChrist, you have a persecution complex. I humbly suggest you spread kindness and love, and you shall receive both in return.

Ryan0, you often post with an antagonistic tone but never overtly threatening or mean spirited. You are also often very informative-keep it up!

This is a community, right?-let's play nice

 

+eighty billion.

 

Persecution complex? Everything was going well until ryan brought to this thread his antagonistic mean-spirited tone. I suggest you read it and find where it broke down. I have a bad habit of taking people to task for unwarranted internet thuggery, ryan made clear and obvious that he had an issue with me being a Christian and made bigoted blanket reference to Christians all being "ignorant," this is not "persecution complex," this is fact...It was quite clear that he had no other valid reason to come to this thread and spread his sanctimonious self-righteousness, other than a personal issue, and he got personal.

Ryan then further stepped over the line by threatening to harass me at the track. He then takes it a step further, in a taunting passive aggressive manner, by obliquely starting a thread directed at me, totally founded in a delusional sanctimonious fantasy...did I enter that thread and cause trouble?...No, I did not, and it is not my style.

Loyalty to a dishonorable man makes the one who is loyal dishonorable.

 

I think I can easily get to 2:03, if not better, with R-compounds and a more aggressive alignment.

 

MRinChrist i'm not a fan of Ryan0 either i think he is a little *****, but in this case I have to be 100% agreed with him. There's no shame in letting people past you or running slower class.

 

you need professional help. i called YOU an 'ignorant christian'... just you... if i called you an 'ignorant mullet wearing dude' would that be bigoted against the other dudes with mullets?

get back on point.. you need a better attitude on the track.. its not all about you.

and i only offered to stick my nose inside of you in a high speed turn to show you the other guys point of view.. again.. most self-centered people have no idea what it feels like when someone does it to them.. they only feel its fair to do it to others.

have some consideration for OTHERS on track..

 

it was not 'passive aggressive, nor was it 'obliquely' directed at you.. it was flat out obviously directed at you and otehrs with your attitude..

and you did not 'enter' that thread cause you would have been dog piled, as it appears the majority of true track guys agree with me.. and not 'if you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen'.

how many people saying it does it take for you to understand that you are wrong?


help a noob.

 

You have been misled, brother. In the case at hand, it was I passing a slower driver (explained below)

Have you been following ryan's little tirade? He had no idea what he was talking about, but something, obviously my Christianity, made him feel it his santimonious right to come in this thread and be a punk.

In the case at hand, I clearly outlined the scenario. This seems to have been lost, either out of ignorance, or just plain malevolent punk'ism...I was on a track with a guy who was being a *****, I took the safest opportunity I could find to pass, given it was an advanced run group. Advanced run-groups, with SpeedVentures, allows for full race conditions. This is CLEARLY explained at the driver's meeting. I passed on a very wide section of the track, I passed safely and with plenty of room to spare. The M3 guy panicked and lifted off the gas, and ended up in the dirt...Being the arrogant M3 guy he was, he couldn't admit his error and so blamed me.

This is where ryan comes in. His lack of comprehension of the situation, despite I clearly outlining it on multiple occasions, has allowed him to live out a warped rendition of all the facts. Ryan behaves like he knows what happened. He does not, but he pompously "***-umes" that he does, and makes up all kinds of hypotheticals and then points me out as guilty of his hypothetical potentialities, all cooked up in his mind......in fact his hate reached such a fever pitch that he had to make a self-righteous thread, based in his fantasy, in order to make a case...a total work of fiction.


Anybody with any track time should realize that if you are slowing somebody down, you should allow the faster car to pass. This is what I do. If the faster car is not allowed to pass, when clearly he is trying to, then race-rules allow for the faster car to pass ANYWHERE AT ANY TIME!!!!...If the slower car goes off the track, then he shouldn't have been in the kitchen in the first place.

 

What attitude? The only attitute displayed in this thread has been yours. What part of track etiquette escapes your feeble grasp? If you are slowing somebody down, you move. If you do not move (in red run group) you are going to get passed. If you are getting passed and you lift off the gas, in Riverside, you may go off the track. If you can't stand the heat, then GTF outta the kitchen!
No, ryan, you warped the reality of what occurred. You then offered this pure fantastical hypothetical to see what the response would be. Based on the figment of your antagonistic and passive aggressive imagination, you extracted a response that was founded in ill-conceived spite-filled nonsense...
Ask Aaron Bitterman if I am a noob. Ask RichardEvo. I have several other track regulars who know me well, who can explain to you your error. Would you like references?...In fact, Robi drove with me in my car over 2 years ago at BigWillow, and I met Nils that day too...I am a noob?...get a grip boy.


help a boob.

 

That isn't what happened, ryan. You are living in an imaginary world...That said, I sincerely hope that you teach me how it feels, cause it sounds exciting...All due respect, however, I don't think you have the *****.

 

MR - Please stay out of HPDEs, its not your thing. I just read this entire thread and although Ryan may not have the most friendly delivery of his points he is exactly right. Judging by your posts, you have quite the ego and on the track, especially in open passing conditions, is definately not the place for an ego. You may be a fantastic driver (althought that video and lap time point a different direction), but no matter how good you are, an ego is a dangerous thing. HPDEs are supposed to be fun, non-competitive events. No matter what the rules say, safety is always the #1 rule and that pass, weather he lifted or not, was not safe. He obviously didn't know you were coming and by lifting on the throttle mid-turn he probably shouldn't have been in red group either. As an advanced driver you should be able to read the other drivers "body language" on track with their driving. If you can't, then don't go up to the red group no matter how fast your car is or how long you have been driving. You are not skilled or mature enough to run the red group and every post you make justifies that point more and more. Don't go out there and make it un-safe for others, we aren't out there to wreck our daily drivers, we are out there to get away from our wives, relieve some stress, and have fun. Bottom line is that you concentrate too hard on the rules rather than the reason you and everybody else is out there. There are no rules against jumping off of a building, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

Oh, and please stop with the kitchen analogy, we get it.

I look forward to your response .

 

ok mullet boy.. ive had enough of your ****.

people hate douches like you on the track.. we laugh and make fun of you.

you walked around WSIR all day with no shirt on.. i mean who the **** does that?

yes.. i was there.. running faster than you all day long.. but never stufed my nose inside of you.. if i would have known, i would have.. but wait.. didnt you move back down to the blue group? was the kitchen too hot? did your 'track refrences' and 2 years of experience not pull through for you?

i tried to get back on topic.. but you keep goign on and on in this thread.. there is no more need to try and defend yourself.. everyone thinks its a terrible attitude.. all you do is keep making your psychosis more and mroe clear.

nice work.

 

#1. bitteman is nice to everyone.. its his job.. do you think that the Hooters waitress is interested in dating you because she was nice while bringing you some wings?


#2. citing DickEvo as a track refrence is like attaching a letter of recommendation from Cho Seung-Hui on your college application.

 

You have to be kidding me. You really are confused here. I hate to break this to you, but egos are absolutely freakin' rampant at the track. In fact ego is probably the predominant emotion there...This said, I am very humble at the track. In fact, when this M3 guy was blaming me, I didn't feel it my place, or conducive to track harmony, to get in a pissing match with him. I quickly apologized for what I communicated as an obvious misunderstanding. Had I any idea he would panic IN RED RUN GROUP I would not have passed...The problem with M3 guy is he wouldn't let me pass, he was being a *****. He had no business in RED RUN GROUP, at least with SpeedVentures. He learned the lesson the hard way.

When I am over my head, I humbly allow more aggressive drivers to pass, if too many pass, I move down a group for my safety and that of other drivers.

Glad I could help you clearly understand that which you did not.

 

Actually, no. I was running faster than you. The only Evo to pass me was Barfly. I passed you. I was moved up into red because I was lapping in blue.

You have driven with me. Good. So take this moment to reflect on my driving. Was I inconsiderate? Did anybody imply such? Do you realize how much of a dick you have been in this thread?