I've always had my mind for the Mitsubishi EVO cause of its nice look and everything but I also had it in for an WRX STI, off stocked on the track, the EVO beats it no problem but i have a question about the whole "tuning" thing. If both cars were to be tuned for its max HP it can juice, MAX torque, etc etc etc which car would win? Please take ego out of the picture, im an evo lover, but keep in mind to take your personal preference out of the picture and look at the statistical performance.

So, what would win if both cars were to be tuned out to its MAX??
And how much would it cost for both cars to be tuned up (excluding the price of the car itself)

 

Tuned to the max? that doesn't really mean anything. Do you mean modded to the max? If you took a stock Evo and stock STI, then did nothing but "tune" them, then the Evo would make way more power, but that has very little to do with which one performs the best on a road course. i don't think you really mean to use the word "tune." Tuning is what you do to optimize AFRs and timing for a given set of mods. Both can be tuned for free using open source flashing software, but the Evo is going to make more power with only a tune, because the stock turbo is much more capable. However, once again, power is not the important factor when discussing road racing.

 

It all comes down to the driver. Simply put, pick the car that you want.

 

It takes more $$ to get big amounts of hp out of the STi if that's what you mean.

The Evo's cast iron block can handle more power (ala boost) than the STi's aluminum block.

With basic bolton's, they can put out pretty similar power outputs really. 04-06 STi's gearing isn't the best for the track and really hurts it however.

 

Sti's have trouble going sub 12.5 on stock turbo and pump gas.

 

well seeing as the evo just set the new world record for the standing mile i'm going to say the 4g63 is a superior power plant, while the evo is a superior platform.

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LMAO my bad I meant MODed sorry, I was tired when I was trying to type this up haha. But yea, if you were to modd out both cars to the max which would win?

 

There is no such thing. Modding a car to the max simply doesn't exist. A few years ago a Supra owner could have told you 900hp was the maximum level possible. Next thing you know; someone comes out with 1000hp.

 

"off stocked on the track, the EVO beats it no problem " i'm still trying to decipher this if u are buying new go drive both pick the one u like. if used take the first one in your price range that hasnt been beat to ****

 

LOL kk what would win if both were moded to its max capability

 

You just stated the same thing that you said previously. However, if you say something to the tune of: if both cars had 300 whp, what are the average 1/4 mile times, average times around the same road course, etc. This would be more useful information to you.

Modded to the max could be done for drag racing or road racing, with both having completely different setups, thus having completely different total costs and power.

 

the "maximum capablity is strictly determined by the size of your credit card and racing budget.

"How fast you want to go?" is the same as saying "how much do you want to spend?"

that said, my '04 STI in stock trim was always 1 second slower on average compared to a stock '03 EVO on a given autocross course.

I even let 2 nationally competitive drivers flog my STI in fun runs back to back with an EVO. results were predictable. Both drivers were consistantly 1 second slower in the STI than in the EVO. remember, this was in fun runs, on the SAME course, same event, same weather conditions.

How the cars perform when modded depends on the mods.

 

What it boils down to is which car you like. I highly doubt you're going to max out either car, if you were you wouldn't be asking this kind of question, you would have bought one and already started by now. Both can be made very fast reasonably easily although, as said already, the evo does respond better to bolt-ons because it comes from the factory with a better turbo. Swap out the turbo in an STI though and it's a whole new ball game. We have a local guy who has a 400hp+ STI but it cost him 12k$ CAD to get there.

 

ok first off, the mr is the slowest available evo on the track (extra weight, bad gearbox ect ect) so dont waiste your money. maxed out i believe that evo's hold the drag records because all fast drag sti's are on nozz

if you want to do the basic upgrades, evo's always make way more power because they have a way bigger turbo. the 07 sti's are pretty awsome too and tend to make more torque

in my book it goes 07 sti, 06 evo, 05 evo, rest of sti's

but putting the same stuff on both cars, so say cammed evo greened evo ix with all the other bolt ons from what i have seen makes decently more power than an sti with the same mods (no cams on the sti because its like impossible)

for example, my friend has a dynoshop and with his sti with a tune green turbo fmic and exhaust and intake, the car made 305 whp, my evo with just an ix turbo which is smaller than a green and all the other bolt ons made 372 whp

 

That's completely false about the MR being the slowest. They even did a side-by-side test, and it was faster than the GSR, but that doesn't really matter. The MR is 50 lbs lighter than a GSR w/SSL, only 20lbs heavier than a base GSR, has wheels that weigh 3lbs less per rim (both GSRs), and a lower center of gravity (alum roof). The gearing is BETTER for the track, not worse. The gearing is only worse for drag racing, but definitely not on track.