Well, Lee has started posting in his "Kick the rally cars out" thread on sccaforums again... I wonder if it'll go another 27 pages?

 

Man, I've wasted so much time on that thread. I've already typed up 2 long reply to his latest post...only to close the window each time.

 

Yeah, that's me currently arguing with him. I'm sorry, but at this point, BSP is dead without the rally cars.

 

Problem is it isn't exactly "full" with only the rally cars either.

Marshall,

I would love to hear a little from you about running w/Uyeda and your/Tom's thoughts on his old vette (didn't he have a BSP C4?). We don't really have much for BSP in the NE except rally cars. If you head further south there are a few M3's but nobody ran last year.


John

 

Like what?

I think the results at nationals would be very different if BSP wasn't in the first group both years. The only place we've run against Harold other then nationals was at the El toro pro last year. Tom beat him by ~.5 secs on a course where we had roughly .5 seconds on him in the 60' on each side. Had that not been a pro solo i suspect we would have been behind by probably .2secs total.

 

OK, I need to rant a bit. I have now had 3 different coilovers on my car and only one had an adequate brake line mounting!! and it wasn't the ohlins! WTF?

Why is it so difficult for the product development people to check the brake line routing, I don't understand it. The brake line bracket totally gouges the chassis at anything more than 2.8ish camber. So stupid.


Serious question though. Does anyone roll their front fenders when running the 285 hoosiers? These things seem huge compared to the kumhos. They aren't going to tuck even at more than -3.0 camber.

 

No personal experience, but I heard people can fit them without rolling. But I think I heard that from you in a thread a long time ago in a forum far, far away.

 

I have a feeling that if Nationals was on concrete, this whole BSP controversy wouldn't exist.

 

I feel for you. I did the same song and dance with Strano and Winchel when the Evo was in ESP - that's when the AWD hate started. SEB had me submit a document on the car and it went to a split vote to keep it in class, lucky at that time Mary C. and Doug G. were for it.

 

I just don't see how it would be physically possible.

 

?? My Ohlins have perfectly adequate brake line mounting/routing. Now that I think about it, my old S/A ones were not so hot. We had to bend the mounting tab that bolts to the back of the shock I think.

As for the Hoosiers fitting in the front - I did not roll my fronts last year, but the tires did rub a little on hard cornering. It wore a little bit of the paint off from the fender lip, but never showed a mark on the tire. This year I am going to roll them or get wider front fenders. . .

 

My brake line routing with the Ohlins looks fine to me as well John. You got your set used right? Any chance something is off?

 

you have to bend the brake line bracket basically as far as you can get it to go around the front side of the shock. then it's fine.

front fender rolling=yes.

 

Thanks for all the replies guys. My set is used but everything looks fine. The brake line deal really is a function of the strut clearance at the back which gets really low when camber goes up (or is that down). It's also worse with the lower camber bolt in the max neg camber position.

The Tein Super racing had a nice little welded tab to the front of the lower strut mount for the brake line. This was the best I've seen so far as brake line routing was good and there were no issues no matter how much camber you run. Some of the chinese made shocks don't include any type of brake line mounting provision at all!

As for fender rolling and tire fitment. I threw on a kumho and clearance is much better, although it still hits the fender. So combine a bigger spacer for the hoosier with the added width and greater diameter and a fender roll will be in order.

John

 

I look forward to fender rolling, rubbing, and brake line issues. Yay!


... I ordered my 285/30/18's.. now I need wheels to put them on. Oh, and coilovers too.


I think I'm going to tell Kyle to just order me coilovers and surprise me. This is too much reading.. my eyes hurt.