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Old Dec 5, 2011 | 11:58 PM
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For what it's worth, the autocross setup is dictated by some lines drawn on the parking lot, presumably by the Speedway. The groups that actually run events here probably cannot even change the course layout.


Rob,
I left out one crucial detail in my critique of this course. It costs $90 for 10-14 runs of under 40 seconds. I simply have higher expectations for that amount of money and I think others should too.

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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by supergengo
For what it's worth, the autocross setup is dictated by some lines drawn on the parking lot, presumably by the Speedway. The groups that actually run events here probably cannot even change the course layout.


Rob,
I left out one crucial detail in my critique of this course. It costs $90 for 10-14 runs of under 40 seconds. I simply have higher expectations for that amount of money and I think others should too.
if i were you i would look around some hill climb events or something on track

Around here the hill climb cost $150 and you racing TWO days with a lots of miles
The fun is non comparable to auto X or even HPDE TA track days.
Circuit racing cost around here $300 but same thing it is much better then autox and more fun
Not to mention the fact you WILL learn a lot more there.

Since you did racing couple of times there i think you might like to look into those.

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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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Fyi, this was NOT a SCCA solo event, where there are strict course layout rules. Also a licensed safety steward has to approve the course for competition.

The AX event at that particular small lot, I believe is usually an adjunct to the organizer's track day. Probably since they already have to pay for whole facility. Mostly new people wanting to get a taste of HP driving.



Supergo, you should look into the big LA region SCCA AXs in the large lot outside the speedway. Much longer, faster and safer courses, with available instruction. Cost is $30 for 4 runs, or $55 for 8 runs. Also events are held at El Toro in a few months. Look me up for help. Solo2.com for details.

Rick

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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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8 runs a day on a 70+ second course with BMW CCA Boston for $40 and this is how the course looks. Wide open, no obstacles, lots of fun!

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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by supergengo
For what it's worth, the autocross setup is dictated by some lines drawn on the parking lot, presumably by the Speedway. The groups that actually run events here probably cannot even change the course layout.


Rob,
I left out one crucial detail in my critique of this course. It costs $90 for 10-14 runs of under 40 seconds. I simply have higher expectations for that amount of money and I think others should too.
Holy crap! That's maybe around twice the runs we usually get, but that's a buttload of money just to dodge cones. I think I usually pay $20-$30 for autocrosses with 6-8 runs for the day here.

TBH, I suck at autocross (I only started going to them last year and haven't been in a few months) and that curb would probably freak me out just a bit, even at the distance away that it is.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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That autox course that the vette crashed on appears to be one of the most boring I've ever seen! I wouldn't pay a thing to drive that fail of an effort.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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Noted. Definitely need to find some new places/venues to drive.


Originally Posted by Robevo RS
if i were you i would look around some hill climb events or something on track

Around here the hill climb cost $150 and you racing TWO days with a lots of miles
The fun is non comparable to auto X or even HPDE TA track days.
Circuit racing cost around here $300 but same thing it is much better then autox and more fun
Not to mention the fact you WILL learn a lot more there.

Since you did racing couple of times there i think you might like to look into those.

Rob
Originally Posted by SS RX7 r2
Fyi, this was NOT a SCCA solo event, where there are strict course layout rules. Also a licensed safety steward has to approve the course for competition.

The AX event at that particular small lot, I believe is usually an adjunct to the organizer's track day. Probably since they already have to pay for whole facility. Mostly new people wanting to get a taste of HP driving.



Supergo, you should look into the big LA region SCCA AXs in the large lot outside the speedway. Much longer, faster and safer courses, with available instruction. Cost is $30 for 4 runs, or $55 for 8 runs. Also events are held at El Toro in a few months. Look me up for help. Solo2.com for details.

Rick
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SS RX7 r2
Fyi, this was NOT a SCCA solo event
Rick
I think that was obvious.

$90 for that??? Take Rick's advice. You may not get as many runs as you're used to, but they'll likely be more exciting.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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wow, how do you explain that to your insurance company. . .
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 04:05 AM
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wow, how do you explain that to your insurance company. . .
Dog run a cross a front of you and when you did try avoid the collision , you hit the high curb.

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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
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That guy ****ed it up end of story. Has nothing to do with design - gravel - cold slicks etc. That is all PART of the RACING!
You should negotiate with the elements thorough your run and finish. If you crash there is NOBODY to blame but yourself, simple is that.


Geeez


Rob
I hear ya, Rob. But, let's face it, this is the good ole US of A, and here it's everyone else's fault except your own.

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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 12:31 AM
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90 buxs is crazy. here the SCCA club runs usually 30 and thats if your not an SCCA member. if you are it's usually 25 and u usually can find and save money by going to myautoevents.com and pre-registering. (i suck at spelling). but around here u usually get 6 runs for the cost and then after that there usually is time for a few fun runs. not to mention lots of help from experienced people and more challenging courses.


if the OP's course was not an SCCA course event then that explains a lot. Safety stewarts (like someone said about them approving all courses) are very good about making the course safe and fun.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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Live cones slalom at 0:57 look cool only in ads LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm8C1TpPkUQ

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