setting rebound in relation to swaybar stiffness?
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setting rebound in relation to swaybar stiffness?
so i recently fitted a set of "gerard spec" ohlins and updated my alignment, and im trying to figure out how i should approach the rebound settings. per the setup sheet, using STOCK sway bars the rebound should be set to 8 clicks down from full stiff on the front 6 on the rear.
I run whiteline front and rear sway bars which provide:
front 2mm bigger than stock = 38% stiffer
rear 2mm-4mm bigger than stock = 42-95% stiffer
since i was previously on bilsteins/springs, the rear bar is on the middle hole which gives 67% stiffer than stock. unfortunately the endlink bots are seized and i cant put it down to the softest setting until i cut them out and replace them.
my concern is that im going to have a tail happy car at the track, which i do not want, so as a result im looking to set it up with a neutral-ish to understeer cushion.
current alignment is -2.8 camber/0 toe front and -1.5 camber/1/16th total rear toe in.
my thought is that i will definitely want to soften up the rear rebound, but my guess is that it will not be a simple 1 to 1 relationship of rebound to sway bar (decrease rebound by amount of bar stiffness increase)
lets discuss.
I run whiteline front and rear sway bars which provide:
front 2mm bigger than stock = 38% stiffer
rear 2mm-4mm bigger than stock = 42-95% stiffer
since i was previously on bilsteins/springs, the rear bar is on the middle hole which gives 67% stiffer than stock. unfortunately the endlink bots are seized and i cant put it down to the softest setting until i cut them out and replace them.
my concern is that im going to have a tail happy car at the track, which i do not want, so as a result im looking to set it up with a neutral-ish to understeer cushion.
current alignment is -2.8 camber/0 toe front and -1.5 camber/1/16th total rear toe in.
my thought is that i will definitely want to soften up the rear rebound, but my guess is that it will not be a simple 1 to 1 relationship of rebound to sway bar (decrease rebound by amount of bar stiffness increase)
lets discuss.
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im hoping to have to avoid experimenting too much, since i would think you could get to the point where you could literally go 1 click to far and ruin the balance of the rear. it is definitely quite interesting how HUGE of a difference there is with the car set at the recomended settings vs. full soft
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I have Ohlins R/T now and had a set of DFVs before....
I don't have a front bar ... only a rear and I actually prefer the stiffer bar in the rear even with the coil overs. I don't feel it upsets the car or limits rear grip at all. I suppose it will depend on your camber, weight reduction, tire type and the pavement you are running on but I can tell you that many very fast EVOs are running an upgraded rear bar.
I don't have a front bar ... only a rear and I actually prefer the stiffer bar in the rear even with the coil overs. I don't feel it upsets the car or limits rear grip at all. I suppose it will depend on your camber, weight reduction, tire type and the pavement you are running on but I can tell you that many very fast EVOs are running an upgraded rear bar.
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yeah i know they are running upgraded rear bars, but the question is the stiffness. i had been told (i cant recall by who, may have been in a discussion with andrew at GTworx) that i would want to go down to the softest setting with 8k/10k and higher. i have not found many people using anything but the softest setting (42% stiffer than stock) with coilovers.
on my bilsteins/gtworx setup with the rear bar in the middle the car was great, i did quickly expose the soft spring rates as an issue tho, as well as not having enough camber up front. i frequent lime rock which is a short, tight track so roll resistance is definitely important.
on my bilsteins/gtworx setup with the rear bar in the middle the car was great, i did quickly expose the soft spring rates as an issue tho, as well as not having enough camber up front. i frequent lime rock which is a short, tight track so roll resistance is definitely important.
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