Evo X front brake swap for Evo 8/9
#526
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All I know is that I still love the way the Evo X front and Evo 9 rear brakes feel with the DTC70/DTC60 pad setup. The only thing I would change is the wear rate especially if doing racing weekends. I have some Raybestos ST43 pads to try in the front and rear. I'm also using the Mach V rotor rings currently and they work great and the replacement cost isn't too bad.
#527
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you can check on ebay but it's not much.
i found a few companies online that basically make brake caliper brackets to allow for using stock calipers with larger rotors (or larger calipers on larger rotors) - ballade does this - (https://www.balladesports.com/produc...otor-kit-front)
given the similiarities between the 9 and X calipers, a brakcet may be all that's needed, would save the drilling headache thought it frankly wasnt bad
i found a few companies online that basically make brake caliper brackets to allow for using stock calipers with larger rotors (or larger calipers on larger rotors) - ballade does this - (https://www.balladesports.com/produc...otor-kit-front)
given the similiarities between the 9 and X calipers, a brakcet may be all that's needed, would save the drilling headache thought it frankly wasnt bad
#528
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Drilling headache? It took all of 5 minutes to run a 9/16" drill bit through the knuckles...
#530
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I'm going to be selling my EVO X calipers that have 3 track days on them and were new when I installed them. They will come with a set of ST43 pads that have 50 street miles on them.
They have the racing brake SS pistons and high temp seals that I installed just before I put them on the car. Will also include a set of OEM X rotors that have some life left. If anyone is interested PM me for pricing.
They have the racing brake SS pistons and high temp seals that I installed just before I put them on the car. Will also include a set of OEM X rotors that have some life left. If anyone is interested PM me for pricing.
#531
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bumping this, was kind of thinking about the brakes and EBD - does anyone know what EBD is actually doing? This is a quote I picked up from somewhere:
https://www.supercars.net/blog/2006-...ion-ix-fq-360/
Curious how that would be impacted by the brake swap.
EBD automatically regulates the front and rear braking force to match the vehicle load and driving conditions.
Curious how that would be impacted by the brake swap.
#532
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I didn't know about this, so is this to say the computer would automatically regulate the bias and Evo X brakes in the front would be therefore accounted for in the computer auto biasing?
I assume this means if it detects lockup in the front for example it'll automatically shift it rearward and constantly try and increase braking force to the tires with the most grip.
"Another enhancement to the Lancer Ralliart brake system includes anti-lock brakes (ABS) to help enhance steering control during emergency maneuvers. Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) further aids braking by monitoring traction conditions and proportioning hydraulic force applied to the front and rear wheel brakes where it will do the most good."
https://media.mitsubishicars.com/rel...1-fd104b06fc0b
I assume this means if it detects lockup in the front for example it'll automatically shift it rearward and constantly try and increase braking force to the tires with the most grip.
"Another enhancement to the Lancer Ralliart brake system includes anti-lock brakes (ABS) to help enhance steering control during emergency maneuvers. Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) further aids braking by monitoring traction conditions and proportioning hydraulic force applied to the front and rear wheel brakes where it will do the most good."
https://media.mitsubishicars.com/rel...1-fd104b06fc0b
#533
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I've literally said this before lol. All modern cars is the ABS module for brake force disto.
#534
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I didn't know about this, so is this to say the computer would automatically regulate the bias and Evo X brakes in the front would be therefore accounted for in the computer auto biasing?
I assume this means if it detects lockup in the front for example it'll automatically shift it rearward and constantly try and increase braking force to the tires with the most grip.
"Another enhancement to the Lancer Ralliart brake system includes anti-lock brakes (ABS) to help enhance steering control during emergency maneuvers. Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) further aids braking by monitoring traction conditions and proportioning hydraulic force applied to the front and rear wheel brakes where it will do the most good."
https://media.mitsubishicars.com/rel...1-fd104b06fc0b
I assume this means if it detects lockup in the front for example it'll automatically shift it rearward and constantly try and increase braking force to the tires with the most grip.
"Another enhancement to the Lancer Ralliart brake system includes anti-lock brakes (ABS) to help enhance steering control during emergency maneuvers. Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD) further aids braking by monitoring traction conditions and proportioning hydraulic force applied to the front and rear wheel brakes where it will do the most good."
https://media.mitsubishicars.com/rel...1-fd104b06fc0b
#536
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What would you tune? ABS already prevents lock. You can use a combination of pads to get the balance you want. Though I do have to say that I have a feeling our ABS kicks in a bit early. I feel like I could brake a bit harder without it. Unless our ABS system is just THAT good. But, I dunno. Just thinking out loud. Maybe my ABS was kicking in because I was using the same pad front and rear and the rear was locking too soon.
For anyone running ST43s up front, what are you putting on the rear?
For anyone running ST43s up front, what are you putting on the rear?
#537
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Originally Posted by kaj
What would you tune? ABS already prevents lock. You can use a combination of pads to get the balance you want. Though I do have to say that I have a feeling our ABS kicks in a bit early. I feel like I could brake a bit harder without it. Unless our ABS system is just THAT good. But, I dunno. Just thinking out loud. Maybe my ABS was kicking in because I was using the same pad front and rear and the rear was locking too soon.
For anyone running ST43s up front, what are you putting on the rear?
For anyone running ST43s up front, what are you putting on the rear?
#539
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Have a set of X calipers with SS pistons and 2 sets of ST47 pads for sale for $750 which is only a few hundred bucks over what I have into the pads. Just want to move this stuff to make more room in my garage :P
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/market/755102
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/market/755102