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Old Sep 8, 2017, 01:16 PM
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Oil Pressure drops at Road Atlanta

I thought I would share this. This if from the back straight at Road Atlanta's. After turn 7 all the way down to 10a

Oil Mods.
  • Kiggly Racing HLA pressure regulator
  • Cosworth Crank scraper
  • 2Q Canton Racing Accusump
  • OEM oil pan
  • English Racing - Underdrive Oil Pump Gear
  • Front Balance shaft eliminated with the rear one in and counter weight removed.
  • Head's oil returns passages have been cleaned out
  • Run 20W50 oil
  • Oil temps between 230-245

5th gear at 6400 RPM, the log are showing that I start to loose oil pressure. I've looked at older logs from last year and had the same results. On a long pull, the oil pump out flowing it's supply and isn't draining back fast enough. Good thing I have an Accsump to protect me. Time for a bigger oil pan with trap doors.

FYI - The log froze for just a moment and that's why you see a flat line.

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That's crazy. Racefab, or Chad McCurdy makes one.
Old Sep 8, 2017, 02:26 PM
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Chad McCurdy races with me at gridlife. Never official met him.
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Hit him up for a pan. I have his and seems to work well, maintains 70-75psi of oil pressure on high g right hand corners. Holds 7qt's, so you probably won't have the issue with draining the sump on long 5th gear pulls.
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Perhaps drop down from 20w50 ?
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The real issue is likely Aeration of the oil more than there is a supply problem. That is one of the main reasons we developed the underdrive pulley at English racing.

What brand etc. oil are you running?

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Originally Posted by wanabgts
The real issue is likely Aeration of the oil more than there is a supply problem. That is one of the main reasons we developed the underdrive pulley at English racing.

What brand etc. oil are you running?

Zack
I run Valvoline vr1 synthetic racing oil. I think it's supposed to guard against foaming.

I could always try a thinner oil, but at 230 f oil temps, the viscosity seems almost like a lighter weight oil.

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All performance oils have additives to help with air release (de-aeration). However they are not all created equal. Some of the oils we have had tested take up to 7 second during the standard test to release all air from the oil.

Joe Gibbs has a very good release, especially their euro/import line made for ethanol fuels etc.

I have been running Motul 300v 15w50 Motorcycle blend in my race cars for some time now, when I consulted with they explained that because of the sustained high rpm use of bikes they have much more air release capability. It did not completely fix the problems I was having in a 1/2 drag race revving over 9k, but it made a substantial difference.

That being said, you should definitely do the pan and windage tray....it helps with so much more than just aeration problems. PCV venting and windage can also have a huge effect on aeration, so be concious of that.


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Thank you Zack for the information. I'll need to look into the oil. I agree, an oil pan and windage tray are needed.
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I had a pan built for me (a few others on this forum now have them as well). I used to see pressure drop during long, right handers @ my local track. No more.
It's over 6qts and has the trap doors, etc. I highly recommend going that route. the stock pan doesn't hold enough oil for any performance engine, much less a turbo car, IMO. The trap doors are a nice bit of insurance to have.






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Originally Posted by kaj
I had a pan built for me (a few others on this forum now have them as well). I used to see pressure drop during long, right handers @ my local track. No more.
It's over 6qts and has the trap doors, etc. I highly recommend going that route. the stock pan doesn't hold enough oil for any performance engine, much less a turbo car, IMO. The trap doors are a nice bit of insurance to have.






Very nice. Saw your other post. I'll PM about it.

Thanks
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what tires? looks like you're making quite a bit of power, and have good aero too. sub'ed to see how things improve
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Tire's aren't really relevant. He's dropping pressure on long straight aways.
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oh, whoa.

aeration or not i'd still run red line 5w40
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