2019 D-Street discussions
Nov 2, 2018, 06:03 AM
#31
You and me both. I drove Elias's RS at WDCR last Sunday and still feel the same way. I feel the only area where the RS would have a clear advantage is coming out of slow (and by that I mean local Miata club 15 mph pin turn slow) corners where the X is completely off boost and just miserable. But how many of those corners are there on national level courses?
Nov 2, 2018, 06:06 AM
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You and me both. I drove Elias's RS at WDCR last Sunday and still feel the same way. I feel the only area where the RS would have a clear advantage is coming out of slow (and by that I mean local Miata club 15 mph pin turn slow) corners where the X is completely off boost and just miserable. But how many of those corners are there on national level courses?
Nov 5, 2018, 12:10 PM
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H*ck yeah! I'm the original owner of a still-stock Evo9 that's about to come out of AutoX retirement. It's already got some MR Bilsteins and a rear bar. It just needs some new modern tires for 2019. Last season I autoxed the Evo, (4-5 years ago??) it was on 255 width Rivals on the stock legal 8" wide wheels, which fit OK and seemed to work well at the time.
Nov 5, 2018, 12:49 PM
#37
what would be the must haves for the 8/9/10 chassis for DS? i've no idea for the 10's but i'm thinking the 8/9's will NEED:
- restacked rear diff
- big *** rear sway bar
- lightweight catback
- super stiff custom valved shocks, I'm thinking with less travel & stiffer bumpstops to get a stiffer effective rate
- the usual, good pads, good tires, prob 255s stuffed on some light 17x8s. tc105x is probably the way to go there.
the suspension/shock set up is gonna be crucial to countering the soft springs on the 8/9s.
- restacked rear diff
- big *** rear sway bar
- lightweight catback
- super stiff custom valved shocks, I'm thinking with less travel & stiffer bumpstops to get a stiffer effective rate
- the usual, good pads, good tires, prob 255s stuffed on some light 17x8s. tc105x is probably the way to go there.
the suspension/shock set up is gonna be crucial to countering the soft springs on the 8/9s.
Nov 5, 2018, 12:59 PM
#38
what would be the must haves for the 8/9/10 chassis for DS? i've no idea for the 10's but i'm thinking the 8/9's will NEED:
- restacked rear diff
- big *** rear sway bar
- lightweight catback
- super stiff custom valved shocks, I'm thinking with less travel & stiffer bumpstops to get a stiffer effective rate
- the usual, good pads, good tires, prob 255s stuffed on some light 17x8s. tc105x is probably the way to go there.
the suspension/shock set up is gonna be crucial to countering the soft springs on the 8/9s.
- restacked rear diff
- big *** rear sway bar
- lightweight catback
- super stiff custom valved shocks, I'm thinking with less travel & stiffer bumpstops to get a stiffer effective rate
- the usual, good pads, good tires, prob 255s stuffed on some light 17x8s. tc105x is probably the way to go there.
the suspension/shock set up is gonna be crucial to countering the soft springs on the 8/9s.
Nov 5, 2018, 01:06 PM
#39
X's Achilles Heel is also the stock soft springs.
I trophied at Pittsburgh Match Tour (and would have at Finger Lakes but for a stupid dnf that was 100% my fault) with just a Whiteline front sway bar and 275 stones on OEM wheels.
I feel I could have been a trophy fodder at Lincoln (just barely) with the current setup had I run mine.
Danny seems to think proper shocks would make the car a lot quicker, so maybe include the shocks to the 'must haves' if the goal is to trophy comfortably at national levels?
I trophied at Pittsburgh Match Tour (and would have at Finger Lakes but for a stupid dnf that was 100% my fault) with just a Whiteline front sway bar and 275 stones on OEM wheels.
I feel I could have been a trophy fodder at Lincoln (just barely) with the current setup had I run mine.
Danny seems to think proper shocks would make the car a lot quicker, so maybe include the shocks to the 'must haves' if the goal is to trophy comfortably at national levels?
Nov 5, 2018, 01:09 PM
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what would be the must haves for the 8/9/10 chassis for DS? i've no idea for the 10's but i'm thinking the 8/9's will NEED:
- restacked rear diff
- big *** rear sway bar
- lightweight catback
- super stiff custom valved shocks, I'm thinking with less travel & stiffer bumpstops to get a stiffer effective rate
- the usual, good pads, good tires, prob 255s stuffed on some light 17x8s. tc105x is probably the way to go there.
the suspension/shock set up is gonna be crucial to countering the soft springs on the 8/9s.
- restacked rear diff
- big *** rear sway bar
- lightweight catback
- super stiff custom valved shocks, I'm thinking with less travel & stiffer bumpstops to get a stiffer effective rate
- the usual, good pads, good tires, prob 255s stuffed on some light 17x8s. tc105x is probably the way to go there.
the suspension/shock set up is gonna be crucial to countering the soft springs on the 8/9s.
- nothing to do with rear end - AYC
- big *** front bar - lot more weight at the front requires as much stiffness as possible, which makes better balance overall
- light way cat back - possibly muffler delete - same as 8/9s
- lots of rebound in shocks as well - you mentioned stiffer bump stops and shorter travel, but it might be illegal as far as I know - travel is +- 1" and bump stops could be enlarged to fit bigger shaft, but not stiffness of length of it.
- X has bigger rims (8.5" vs. 8"), so larger tires could be used - I believe 275s are the way to go for best possible heat management
- as of pads, X comes with bigger rotors, so even factory ones (aka. DS2500s) are pretty good. I have tried stronger ones and they were too much for street tires - maybe I went too far!
- there is also an option to go with two different transmissions and my vote goes for auto one, but more testing is required here.
Nov 5, 2018, 01:09 PM
#41
X's Achilles Heel is also the stock soft springs.
I trophied at Pittsburgh Match Tour (and would have at Finger Lakes but for a stupid dnf that was 100% my fault) with just a Whiteline front sway bar and 275 stones on OEM wheels.
I feel I could have been a trophy fodder at Lincoln (just barely) with the current setup had I run mine.
Danny seems to think proper shocks would make the car a lot quicker, so maybe include the shocks to the 'must haves' if the goal is to trophy comfortably at national levels?
I trophied at Pittsburgh Match Tour (and would have at Finger Lakes but for a stupid dnf that was 100% my fault) with just a Whiteline front sway bar and 275 stones on OEM wheels.
I feel I could have been a trophy fodder at Lincoln (just barely) with the current setup had I run mine.
Danny seems to think proper shocks would make the car a lot quicker, so maybe include the shocks to the 'must haves' if the goal is to trophy comfortably at national levels?
Nov 5, 2018, 01:11 PM
#42
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X's Achilles Heel is also the stock soft springs.
I trophied at Pittsburgh Match Tour (and would have at Finger Lakes but for a stupid dnf that was 100% my fault) with just a Whiteline front sway bar and 275 stones on OEM wheels.
I feel I could have been a trophy fodder at Lincoln (just barely) with the current setup had I run mine.
Danny seems to think proper shocks would make the car a lot quicker, so maybe include the shocks to the 'must haves' if the goal is to trophy comfortably at national levels?
I trophied at Pittsburgh Match Tour (and would have at Finger Lakes but for a stupid dnf that was 100% my fault) with just a Whiteline front sway bar and 275 stones on OEM wheels.
I feel I could have been a trophy fodder at Lincoln (just barely) with the current setup had I run mine.
Danny seems to think proper shocks would make the car a lot quicker, so maybe include the shocks to the 'must haves' if the goal is to trophy comfortably at national levels?
Nov 5, 2018, 07:23 PM
#43
H*ck yeah! I'm the original owner of a still-stock Evo9 that's about to come out of AutoX retirement. It's already got some MR Bilsteins and a rear bar. It just needs some new modern tires for 2019. Last season I autoxed the Evo, (4-5 years ago??) it was on 255 width Rivals on the stock legal 8" wide wheels, which fit OK and seemed to work well at the time.
