AWD car was always beating those RWD cars back in good old days, so I see no reason for it to change! Even you jumped the ship!! And, if I sell my AWD car, I would have to go through all the problems of changing my name here, emails,...nah...too much unnecessary work! I think we will clear things up in new DS!!

Know nothing about those new versions to be honest and have yet to drive one!

 

If you are talking about 8/9 ones, you might be right!!

Joking aside, high rebound shocks help our soft springs a lot and keep the car in much better place. It was definitely too much for B-Street, but D-Street will be way more interesting.

 

i think that's pretty much the only way to get around it right? stiff shocks, with little travel that get you to the bumpstops quicker, a big bar and as much tire you can fit under there. dunno, i'm not willing to try. maybe if i were starting from stock lol

 

I spent several years in SP and SM and all through that I was working on my car a lot more than I could even think of doing these days. Street allows me to do minimal work on the car and still go out and enjoy racing. Yes, you are limited with what can be done there, but so are all the others. And, you still have an option to thinker with the setup, just not on the same level of complexity as other categories.
Going to the path that you suggested would bring more complexity to the options available, which means way more testing and money spending in order to find the right option. Lots of people don't really want that to be part of Street.
As of obscure packages, rule makers do try to keep it under control as much as they can. Once a new option gets too fast for the class, cars are re-classed (here thinking about S2k CR as such example).
At the end, EVOs moved to DS is a great thing. This is the first time that chance like this was given to us. It would be way better if this was done earlier, when more stock cars were available, but I still like it and hope for few years of racing a car that is a contender as oppose to how it was so far all these years.

 

I think a stock 9 would be decent for the class, certainly for Pros, with one caveat.

I got to drive my car in a street-like configuration back when it was new: stock MR suspension, good alignment, stock wheels w/ RE11s (yes this was a while ago). You get to do the rear diff shuffle legally, the car comes with a good sized front bar and you're allowed to change the rear. You can find a set of MR Bilsteins and get them revalved by someone. 255s should be fine on stock wheels. I'm guessing 265-18s would be pretty difficult on stock fenders though.

My caveat is, under no circumstances would I pick one over a FoRS

Also the car is way more fun in STU trim.

 

I had a chance to race RS and I do not think it is faster than my car. On the spots perhaps, but overall I do not think so. The main reason for this is that electronics on RS are great in the few corners, but on the next one they do something way out of norm and you have to wrestle with the car. The thing is, those weird spots are intermittent at best and it is hard to let go and trust that car to do the right thing, because it simple does not all the time. EVO X has a bit of that as well, but nowhere near to amount RS does.

If this would not be an issue, X and RS would be pretty close. RSes are about 100 lb lighter, but have smaller rims. They do have more power on the paper, but I am not sure how much of that is beneficial to autoX. They also can't get as much camber as we can. I am not sure why all the hype about the RSes, but I don't see them as good as lot of people like to think.

 

They also have one of the worst sounding motors of all time. I really "aggressively dislike" hearing them on course.

 

Not a fan of those pops??? Man, you are getting too old...

 

The pops are fine, its the sound at wot. They sound soulless....lol. Like theres not depth or something. Hard to explain. But it's probably a symptom of the exhaust manifold being part of the cylinder head and not an actual manifold. It sounds like an industrial engine, because it basically is..

But I agree, I drove one, the car works in one corner, then the next corner you're like...wtf is going on...

 

The pops are annoying and uneccessary IMO. But like Sean said, its this weird hollow sound I dont like. I havent heard one with maybe more resonators to get to depth to the tone, does an exhaust exist to mellow out that sound?

 

A friend of mine picked up an RS to compete against the Evo's in our local autox club. We have had two events against him and he has already done wheels and tires "18" RE71R for BS". He has admitted that like you mention, the car is unpredictable with its aides. He keeps trying different settings but he seems rather disappointed with the car. He hopes some day someone will sort out the RS issues.
My IX has very little power mods and I bet it isn't putting down over 300 whp. He and I had some fun on the ride home after the event two weeks ago, I was in the lead and he followed and I thought I would work him and our cars were closer than I thought. We will have a go again but to see I wasn't pulling away as much as I thought would happen was a shock. My bad timing on shifts had a lot to do with those results. I blame me for not giving it a proper go.. On the auotx course though our Evo holds its own and I really can't compare classes as I run ASP he is in BS. For Pax he has me beat.

 

So two weeks ago Danny Kao co-drove my X GSR at a NNJR event.

He ran 51.7 + 3, with all 3 cones coming from sideswiping a wallom.

With BS PAX he would have been 11th. With DS PAX, 3rd.

Now consider this.

1. NNJR is one of the toughest regions in the country with national trophy winners regularly placing outside of top 10 PAX.

2. My car is minimally prepped with a Whiteline front bar and shocks that have crap valving (seriously, **** u Bilstein USA). It has OEM wheels and exhaust still.

3. We ran first heat in drying conditions with temps in the 40s. In other words we only got 2 or so dry runs. By third heat the temp was in the 60s.

And get this... there was time left in the car still. He was short shifting because I asked him to take it easy at the start. He was also consistently giving up .1 in the last corner against me, per Solostorm. I drove like a crap that day but that is another story for another day.

The car impressed him so much he is considering buying one for himself to campaign it in DS. This coming from a guy who has owned both FoRS and CTR, and was the fastest FoRS driver at the nationals last year. He also had a Evo 9.

The X will be a monster DS car next year.


http://www.autox4u.com/results/nnjr-...ults-10-20-18/

 

i would def consider a X if i were playing in the street space again for an evo. as of now though, still working on getting fast my e92 m3 for FS

 

don't laugh - the tesla model3 power/awd edition is in DS, and it is ****ing fast as ****. i know it's heavy but holy **** i think it accelerates as fast as most top end supercars, all the power is immediately right there. i think it could be a dark horse if any courses swing power-heavy