The Evo8 ECU isn’t supported by AIM for plug and play operation with the DL model, so is it just a waste of money over the plain Solo model?

Thanks.

 

Yes. The 8/9 doesn't have a CAN bus, so there's no way to pull that data off the car with an Aim system. There are some aftermarket ECUs that have a CAN bus integrated into that it could probably read off of. I know the Link G4 supports this.

 

I pull my channels using the OBD ECU cable on a DL-1 system.

 

What do you use for a real time lap timer?

 

This. And while I didn't have the DL, guy here did and he was able to get data off for his IX.

Older DL supports rolling lap time so you can see the current lap as well as best lap on the screen. Use for both the kart and the VIII. Not sure about the newer version 2.

 

Guess I should've specified with DL2. The original DL stuff isn't super easy to find though from what I've seen.

 

I think there is some confusion in acronyms here. DL1 in Balrok’s and Codgi’s posts refers to the Race Technology datalogger, not the first gen AIM Solo DL — right??

AFAIK, no one has pulled OBDII data into any AIM Solo of any generation.

Unless I misunderstood...

 

What data rate are you getting out of the OBD2? I haven't seen anything getting better than like 8hz outside of EvoScan.

 

Yep I am talking about the original AIM Solo DL like this: http://www.m-world.us/aim_solo_dl_gp...ta_logger.html. I don't know how it was getting pulled but a local guy here did it years ago and there's also a video on youtube with an Evo pulling data from a DL. It's ECU data of some sort since it had RPM. Posted it last time this came up so I suppose if I really go searching for it I can probably find it again.

If the 2 doesn't work then that kinda sucks since I really was hoping to get that and use it to get the other data. Logging with the OpenECU cable would be the only other option for me which would suck.

 

Yea, Aim doesn't make the original DL anymore. From what I've seen you only option is to buy used. FWIW my guess would be that guy using the RPM pickup they sell which works on any car. Doesn't pull any other data and it's just a pickup off the no. 1 cylinder like on a dyno. Unfortunately our cars are too old, if you want to get live data off the ecu without having a laptop hooked up to the car you'll need to move to a standalone.

As for the Race Technology stuff, I wouldn't buy anything that can't record GPS at at least 10HZ, so would have to get the 20HZ option. I can't find much in regards to reviews for it though.

 

RT's DL-1 is pretty geeky for a non-standalone ECU setup, I have the DL-1 club but not with the 20hz option...yet. It can literally log anything because at it's core its simply taking in frequency and voltage while you tell the displays and software what to tell you from those figures via a math formula. So it's not a drop in and go as an AIM setup can be. But yes you can connect in the OBD cable via a serial input and see the usual stuff. I've since gone with external analog sensors in everything but I'm going to take a crack at logging wheel speed from the ABS wires at some point from all of this diff talk. The video I made last year was using their gopro license, but they're dropping a new software version that's about 100x better.

Lap timing is a small portion of what it does but yes page 3 of my dash4 display shows me the current, last, diff, sector, predictive, all that stuff.

 

Sounds like it's the bees knees. I was looking at their site the other day and it seems after getting a DL-1 club and the display it'd be ~$1500 before buying any sensors. So out of my price range for now.

 

When you're spending $1500 for data acquisition at what point would you say you're better off just going to a standalone ECU?

 

Going full motec is closer to $5-6k after sensors, display, plus say 1k for a proper tune. You could go AEM but even with the infinity it's still not a proper motorsport grade ecu from what pro teams tell me, even then you're looking at 2-3k? DL-1 is as close as you'll get before jumping off that cliff. But it's options, you don't "have to" get all the stuff up front lol.

 

It's really just a matter of how thorough you want to be. If you don't review your data in depth then there's not point in pursuing a system like that.

FWIW if I wanted a cost effective solution for getting data without having to go to great lengths and adding custom sensor setups etc. I'd probably grab a PNP Link G4+ and a Solo DL. The Link stuff has good processing power and a CAN bus so it can spit out useful data and the Solo DL can log all of it and it pretty user friendly.

If I was building a full out racecar and had a team to support it then I'd be looking at a Motec or Syvecs system and building a custom wiring harness for the car etc.