Anyone have any experience with the new Outlander XLS's? I was looking into a small SUV for commuting and general duty and with options it seems like they can't be beat. I may go drive one tomorrow and look at them in person.

 

smoke signals




if you have a test pipe, you can just jack the rear end of the car up.

 

the restrictor is easy to remove sorry..

you just need to bleed the clutch!

it makes a big difference!

cb

 

i dont know much about them but i test drove one a couple months ago because my parents were considering one so they asked what i thought about it...the ride itself felt pretty smooth and all the features seemed pretty cool and conveinant more than anything...the turning radius is awesome for that suv and kinda cool with the fast key that you walk up to the door and it unlocks itself along with the keyless ignition...only negative thing in my mind were the seats...seemed a little stiff and not comfortable but seems like most of the smaller suvs are like that...i made a thread a couple days ago about the evo version of it but it looks like it wont make it to production...

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=289614

 

Saturday August 25th 8pm
Behind Loews Theater at the Waterfront.


For those interested this is the same day as the Import Fusion show but that's at sandcastle which ends right before is being held next door to where we have meets.


Please post up if you plan to attend:

Confirmed:
EvoDan(BPU +++)
Evolved(BPU+)
Travman(BPU IX)
Posey 75(IX MR)
OurLancerEvosRob(BPU)
OurLancerEvosJeff(IX MR)
MondoBongo(IX MR)
JeffWells(VIII)
TheGame( BPU VIII+ S1)
LostSolVTEC(IX + Goodies)
SteelCityEVO8(Fast 30R)

Thanks,

Evolved & SteelCity

 

hey dave, you spelled my username wrong in your sig

i hope the weather is decent for saturday.

 

I know a couple of the locals are using meth. How do you guys feels about the the whole safety thing? Every day almost, there is another thread on someone who blew their motor using meth. I know there are failsafes, but this one guy even had his connected to the Zeitronix, EGT sensor, and something else with set parameters for boost cut / fuel dump.

 

Is there any racing at Import Fusion? I will be home this weekend with my car

 

evolunchbox, you'll need to hook up with Steelcityevo8. He'll set you up with a 500 whp cobra. I definately want to see this one. (IF I can keep up!) All on a legally closed track, of course.

The below post is what I asked Al about tuning. I guess I shouldn't have talked trash about him in the past. He's a great tuner and one of the originals. Not the friendliest of tuners, but to each his own.

 

Originally Posted by Thegame
One thing I'm wondering is about the high / low octane fuel maps...

I'm not bashing or questioning anyone's motives. I've had a few different tunes and one was Al's. I loved it. I currently have a different one though. Al doesn't really tune around me and I wanted a custom tune.

Anyhow, it's a known fact that when Al flashes a car, he does indeed use more conservative timing, AFR's, and boost levels. However, he does not create a seperate low octane map. The high and low octane maps are the same. This has its benefits, but also its drawbacks. Since Al isn't tuning a car on the edge of it's life, it shouldn't ever need the low octane map, unless someone dumps 86 octane into their car. Some other well known tuners tune for 24-25 psi on straight pump gas. Mine being one of them. 23-24 psi. But I also have a very conservative low octane map. Won't the car attempt to revert to this map if I get that "suspect tank of gas?" And couldn't the guy running high boost on methanol create a super-fuel dumping, timing retarding, engine saving low octane map to avoid a problem like the OP?

I'd like to hear from the tuners on this issue. What's the better way to go? High and low maps mirrored with conservative tuning, or agressive high map with a very super conservative low octane safety-net map???

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I want to respond specifically to your post

Its amazing to me how rumors are spread and take on their own lives

I have already discussed this on numerous occassions but it bears repeating

Back in the day I was flashing with a raw hexidecimal code editor made by techtom and the application was very crude and simplistic - I started reflashing almost 5 (FIVE) years ago. When you use a very primative editing tool such as "Mighty Map" or other hex editor using a "block approach" to setting the timing simplifies the processs and was found to be very effective.

Later, I became a Ecutek dealer and then along with everyone else went to open ecu products for mapping.

With the enchanced map editing features now available and superior data logging more refined ecu mapping methods were used.

For the past two years virtually all my tuning maps no longer use a "block approach" and nearly every map has a seperate high and low ignition timing and fuel mapping. I say nearly all becuase in some situations (a very rare occurence) there is a specific reason to fix the maps identical.

I say all of this to point out that in my current tuning the high and low octane maps are set differently. Also - the block timing method has not been used for over two years.


As for your specific question - I have almost never seen any evo running on a low octane map so the question is really a moot issue.

If you are suggesting that a overly rich low octane map could resultg in a hydra lock from just loading the clyinder with fuel - I seriously doubt that would happen.

The bottom line is that the ecu properly retards timing and add fuel when a knock event is detected NO MATTER WHAT the high and low octane maps are set to. Having a lower low octane map is kind of a extreme case - worst case senario limp kind of protection in the event of a complete disaster.

With a good tuner like AMS doing the tune I am confident that the car would never go to the low octane map.

The way the OP describes the situation it seems like it occured very quickly.

I am curious to know if the OP would post some data if the dyno tune and the failure were on the same tank of gas and if not how soon before it exploded did he fill up the tank. Did he use full or self service and what kind of fuel was used for the tuning and the failure ?

AL

 

Hey guys, perrin 24mm adjustable rear swaybar new in box for 190.
It is the new bar with the Stout mounts. Can deliver to meet if someone
is interested.

 

Well guys I'm back from the Duryea hillclimb. I'll start off this saying i'm the proud new owner of the SM hillclimb record. I ended up 3rd fastest car of the weekend and one of the 3 only other car to break the 2 min barrier. I was told bye a few of the fellow racers that i'm one of the few production cars to ever break this. So really a excelent weekend.

Onto the hill. This is the most serious racing i've ever done. There were a few spots that were super fast and with serious dangers. Here is some in car footage.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edP9KjhbQ2s.

The clutch- AWSOME! Took me a few times to get the hang of launching the car. It deffinatly likes to be slipped alittle more then the stocker. Dumping it dosn't really work so well it seems. I seemed to get it after a few runs and was spinning tires easily after that. Now shifting thru the gears, it was the most amaziing thing i've ever felt. I think if you race you need one of these at least.

 

Congrats Jeremy thats awesome....and well deserved!! Is the twin ceramic disk?

 

That looks like a crazy hill! Great job Jeremy! Will you teach me how to drive sometime?

 

congratulations jeremy. another record busted eh?