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Old Feb 9, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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Im sure that it would work that way. Give it a try if you want.
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 08:42 AM
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Just failed my MAC station visit. I reinstalled EGR, EVAP, stock cat. Running 94170015 with all the OBD settings set as shown in this thread.

Readiness monitor failed EGR and front 02 heater.

I guess it's possible I bungled up my EGR set up but I was pretty meticulous, IMOHO and followed the schematic


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Can I log either of these in Evo scan? Any ideas assuming my EGR is physically set-up correctly? Can I test on my own?

On a positive note the guy at the Braintree MAC station is a really nice older hotrod guy and pro-modification if you seem reasonable and are trying to comply with regulations.

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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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You can use ScanTech or PCMSCAN to test your EGR. It will basically do a scan like you would have done at MAC/emissions.

The one caveat is that you do have to buy them. I haven't seen a program that is free that will do what those two will.



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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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Here is a diagram to double check your work. A lot of the ready/not ready items need to be driven for so many miles before they will switch to READY.



Here is one of the cheapest OBD2 readiness monitor devices I have seen. It tells you the status of every monitor that the emissions inspection station see's:

http://www.xdpjeep.com/actronpocketscanobdiiandcancodereadercp9550.aspx




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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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pcmscan is floating around the forum for free somewhere...thats how i got it.
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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Hey, Does anyone know if the front/rear 02 sensor heaters are fused and if so, where the fuse is located?

Much appreciate all the help. It appears all systems are on and functional but the readiness monitors won't come on for the 02 sensor heater and EGR.

All settings match stock 94170015, new front 02 sensor, no CELs, reinstalled EGR, tune is stable and trims are under 5%, 200 Mi city/ highway/cruise since ECU reset.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wingless
Hey, Does anyone know if the front/rear 02 sensor heaters are fused and if so, where the fuse is located?

Much appreciate all the help. It appears all systems are on and functional but the readiness monitors won't come on for the 02 sensor heater and EGR.

All settings match stock 94170015, new front 02 sensor, no CELs, reinstalled EGR, tune is stable and trims are under 5%, 200 Mi city/ highway/cruise since ECU reset.
I am not sure on the fuses, but if the fuse was blown wouldn't you throw a code as well not just a monitor not ready?

I am in the same boat though with things not going ready yet. I'm more worried because I don't have the Valves/Stock IM to connect hoses to, I've removed all CEL's because I have the FPS, EGR, and EVAP solenoid harness's plugged in. But those are not "ready" yet. I know they MAY not become Ready but my heater, Catalyst, EGR and EVAP are all Not ready after about 200 miles. I should still throw Heater, Cat, and according to a friend of mine the EGR should still work because of the canister. Evap should be the one that sticks to Not Ready but according to MA emissions in general a car is allowed 1 Not Ready monitor, as long as not the EGR, to pass.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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if your running the patch, something is not set right. they will go ready on the first start after flashing
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by killerpenguin21
if your running the patch, something is not set right. they will go ready on the first start after flashing
I am very very very very confused on why you would jump into a thread about NOT running a patch because it will fail you and cause you to see a State rep to fix your car, and mention putting a patch on to force pass.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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Wingless you figure out what was messed up in the EGR/EVAP setup back on your Intake Manifold?

Was it possible you just didn't drive enough for the monitors to trigger ready?

Also, if you did in fact setup everything perfect, could you possibly take clearer close up pictures of each area, And where that brass barb coming from the EVAP Solenoid that has no hose on it (Pointing outward in picture two) goes to. It's the EVAP Canister correct? If so, do you have a picture of that hose that runs up to the engine bay/area it runs to because I can not seem to find mine and I am now at the point of putting my stock manifold back on to pass emissions instead of triyng work arounds with my Aftermarket one.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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to try to shed some more light from others. Wingless was telling me about some issues he is running into with some other monitors that "should" be working. This was part of it:

o2 sensor V7 settings are giving me a hard time. Are people who have gone through this issue and gone through their fixes, using Tephra V7/Speed density?
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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I found a kinked hose going to the EGR diaphram. I am still looking for am Evo scan def for EGRDC to confirm it's working, but I'm pretty sure it is, as I have no p401 insufficient flow codes.

Problem here is my scantool says it's ready but I have had the Mass computer come up not ready, so I'm a little in the dark.

The o2s are both functioning, I can see them in Evo scan and no codes. OEM (posted) settings yielded heater not ready, o2 ready, After some messing with force pass settings I got the reverse.

Problem is MA got smarter (topic of thread) and requires EGR to cycle to pass. No one can force pass w/o functioning EGR. We don't have a lot of data on selectively activating the systems that are OE and leaving the NA ones.

For baseline and sanity I think I will put a MAF back on and flash an OE XXXX0015 or 0008 my car is almost completely stock anyway at this point.
I want to see if I get any codes or monitor status changes.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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To add to that Wingless, when I ran the V5 manifold to see if i could get a few things to pass, if you have the EGR solenoid plugged in, but nothing hooked to EGR, I did NOT get any CEL's so not sure if you were going to get a code anyway with the kink.
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by wingless
I found a kinked hose going to the EGR diaphram. I am still looking for am Evo scan def for EGRDC to confirm it's working, but I'm pretty sure it is, as I have no p401 insufficient flow codes.
Code:
<DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="EGR Duty Cycle" LogReference="EGRDutyCycle" RequestID="85" Eval="x/1.28" Unit="%" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="100" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="100" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" />
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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Tried every setting/combo possible until my scantool came up positive and then hauled *** directly to inspection station. This is where I ended up.

Non-Continous Monitor Availability Patch Part 1: Ox4019

Non-Continuous Monitor Availability Part Part2: Ox6AA1

Non-Continuous Monitor Completion Patch: OxEAFF and Ox6AA7

Produced the following on both my scan tool and MA OBD machine:

Cat____________ready
cat heater_______NS
evap ___________ready
2nd air system ___NS
AC system _______NS
o2______________ready
o2 heater________ready
EGR_____________ready

Please note, this is with all above applicable OE systems and components intact and functional.

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