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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Your tires has nothing to do with your line. Sayin'

You might not be able to use the same corner entry or exit speed, but the line doesn't change because of your tires. Excuse denied.
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by psushoe
Alwaystryingtodrivemycar... ain't happenin' son! This ain't a game, and my car ain't a toy
How much money you want? I need to prove a point as I did in the past. Wouldn't If I break something I'll fix it or give it off my car and since it'd be after Nats shouldn't be a biggie and enough time to get it back up.

Or

I could go to Nats, win you some contingency in the TSML class.
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ineedmorepsi
I don't need criticism from trollers with less experience. You bring up TD I was playing with the car and getting to know it. It was the first performance driving in the car ever, not even an autocross. I literally had it back on the road for a week or 2 before TD.

Need I have to remind everyone there are multiple lines for multiple setups and cars or are you guys experts in here. I've watch all you guys vids they are all different lines, even the pros have different lines from each other when you compare TiC versus GST or Dan O to Marc. I'm gonna say again for you people hard of hearing in person and reading on this thread for the last time. I COULDN'T DO THE SAME LINES, BRAKING POINTS, CORNER SPEEDS ON EVO12 SUMMER TIRES AS THE PEOPLE BELOW(not to mention all the other issues I had).

Chu on RS3
Mike on R888
Thai on NT01
Marc in M3 and Star Specs

With skinny summer tires you are limited, it's just not going to happen and if you think so you're fooling yourself. Once you guys realize this everything will be better until then get of my ish.
Nobody is on your "ish". In fact, you've been on our "ish" since February 26th. You're the one who's trolling. Go find a forum full of big timers like yourself. We obviously don't have anything to offer you here.
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chu
So what you're saying here is, you can't drive an underprepped car fast?

I think my car is underprepped too then!

Things Chu's car don't have;

Coilovers [I]I have stock bilsteins and Gt Worx. Are you trying to compare them to adjustable coilovers?[/I]
ACD (ACD is better, period. With flash like you have now, even better. Your ACD has been working since GTA. Am I wrong?)
Front LSD
F & R Swaybars
Shep or TRE Trans and Rear Diff (Smooth gears means faster shifts. I shift slow and early becasue of grinding)


Things wrong with Chu's car;

Worn suspensions bushings (Does your car have 150k? No. Has it been daily driven all these year?
Grinding 3rd and 5th gear Heavy sunroof (MR roof make up for trans weight. Plus, I told you before, I only run 20psi at track.)
Blown motor

Thing's worng with Chu;

Short legs barely push clutch pedal down
Overweight for size
Only have 2.5 seasons of autox, and 1.5 season of track.
Know it all
Afraid to Karma too much
Originally Posted by ineedmorepsi
So am I missing something here?
Originally Posted by ineedmorepsi
I don't need criticism from trollers with less experience. You bring up TD I was playing with the car and getting to know it. It was the first performance driving in the car ever, not even an autocross. I literally had it back on the road for a week or 2 before TD.

Need I have to remind everyone there are multiple lines for multiple setups and cars or are you guys experts in here. I've watch all you guys vids they are all different lines, even the pros have different lines from each other when you compare TiC versus GST or Dan O to Marc. I'm gonna say again for you people hard of hearing in person and reading on this thread for the last time. I COULDN'T DO THE SAME LINES, BRAKING POINTS, CORNER SPEEDS ON EVO12 SUMMER TIRES AS THE PEOPLE BELOW(not to mention all the other issues I had).

Chu on RS3
Mike on R888
Thai on NT01
Marc in M3 and Star Specs

With skinny summer tires you are limited, it's just not going to happen and if you think so you're fooling yourself. Once you guys realize this everything will be better until then get of my ish.
I don't have RS3s, I have Z1s. Mike doesn't have R888, has 3 year old RA1. Thai doesn't have NT01 mounted, he was on NT05. I told you before, get your facts straight before you talk.

By the way, that less experience troll known is my younger brother, he whoop your *** at the last Philly event. That little fatboy Tim Ryan who only got 1.5 season of autox in him, he's got a 6 speed, all stock, and whooped your *** too. Car prep > driving experience?

Originally Posted by ineedmorepsi
How much money you want? I need to prove a point as I did in the past. Wouldn't If I break something I'll fix it or give it off my car and since it'd be after Nats shouldn't be a biggie and enough time to get it back up.

Or

I could go to Nats, win you some contingency in the TSML class.
What's TSML?

You ain't wining **** with your setup or driving skills if you can't beat some local autoxers son. Here's a fact you have right, I'm less experience than you. But why are the more experienced guys saying the same thing, and you're still offended. I kept my mouth shut at Trackdaze because I didn't see you track to make a fair judgement. But the rest of the group did. And I heard other instructors who I don't know were saying the same thing. See, I try to get my facts before I say anything.

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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:26 AM
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ineedmorepsi
I don't need criticism from trollers with less experience. You bring up TD I was playing with the car and getting to know it. It was the first performance driving in the car ever, not even an autocross. I literally had it back on the road for a week or 2 before TD.

Need I have to remind everyone there are multiple lines for multiple setups and cars or are you guys experts in here. I've watch all you guys vids they are all different lines, even the pros have different lines from each other when you compare TiC versus GST or Dan O to Marc. I'm gonna say again for you people hard of hearing in person and reading on this thread for the last time. I COULDN'T DO THE SAME LINES, BRAKING POINTS, CORNER SPEEDS ON EVO12 SUMMER TIRES AS THE PEOPLE BELOW(not to mention all the other issues I had).

Chu on RS3
Mike on R888
Thai on NT01
Marc in M3 and Star Specs

With skinny summer tires you are limited, it's just not going to happen and if you think so you're fooling yourself. Once you guys realize this everything will be better until then get of my ish.
lmao just because you've been on track more doesn't mean you're doing it right. Just trying to help you. I watch my own videos and catch where I early apex or miss the apex and try to fix it next time. This is what you said to us at GTA, "I'm not using to hitting the apex. I'm use to driving defensively". Yes, I agree that everyone drives a different line and it depends on your car setup. BUT, you still apex a corner nonetheless and use up as much track as you can. Yes, I'm trolling because I've only got 4 track days. You're the one coming around these parts acting like you're better than everyone else.
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ineedmorepsi
Need I have to remind everyone there are multiple lines for multiple setups and cars or are you guys experts in here. I've watch all you guys vids they are all different lines, even the pros have different lines from each other when you compare TiC versus GST or Dan O to Marc. I'm gonna say again for you people hard of hearing in person and reading on this thread for the last time. I COULDN'T DO THE SAME LINES, BRAKING POINTS, CORNER SPEEDS ON EVO12 SUMMER TIRES AS THE PEOPLE BELOW(not to mention all the other issues I had).

Chu on RS3
Mike on R888
Thai on NT01
Marc in M3 and Star Specs

With skinny summer tires you are limited, it's just not going to happen and if you think so you're fooling yourself. Once you guys realize this everything will be better until then get of my ish.
when i drove your car at trackdaze (with all the issues you claim the car have that day), i basically drove the same line that i drove with my car. only difference is i brake earlier because you have all season tires. when i felt that the ACD wasn't working (more fwd tendency), i still drove the same line.

i often drive my student's cars in orientation laps, i always show them the same line doesnt matter if it's fwd, rwd, awd, what tires or brakes that they have on the car. just saying. there might be a slight variation when going at higher speed but not a drastic variation of the line.

notice on track that they have turn-in cone, apex cone, and track out cone. they don't set out different cones for different types of drive train.

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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:16 AM
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On to a more important topic. Who's going to MOD day. I promise not to be hungover this time!
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by grillpt
Your tires has nothing to do with your line. Sayin'

You might not be able to use the same corner entry or exit speed, but the line doesn't change because of your tires. Excuse denied.
Originally Posted by honda-guy
when i drove your car at trackdaze (with all the issues you claim the car have that day), i basically drove the same line that i drove with my car. only difference is i brake earlier because you have all season tires. when i felt that the ACD wasn't working (more fwd tendency), i still drove the same line.

i often drive my student's cars in orientation laps, i always show them the same line doesnt matter if it's fwd, rwd, awd, what tires or brakes that they have on the car. just saying. there might be a slight variation when going at higher speed but not a drastic variation of the line.

notice on track that they have turn-in cone, apex cone, and track out cone. they don't set out different cones for different types of drive train.

Same point, two different people.



His tires are summer only, btw.
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:19 AM
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On to a more important topic. Who's going to MOD day. I promise not to be hungover this time!
Nope.
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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James, how do I remove my fog light and mirror switches from the panel they sit in? I can't wrap it til I have them out... I tried last night, but it looked like a 5yr old did it.
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by chu
I don't have RS3s, I have Z1s. Mike doesn't have R888, has 3 year old RA1. Thai doesn't have NT01 mounted, he was on NT05. I told you before, get your facts straight becasue you talk.

But the rest of the group did. And I heard other instructors who I don't know were saying the same thing. See, I try to get my facts before I say anything.
Ok, you had Star Specs, Mike had RA1, Thai had NT05s. Which DOES NOT change the fact that they are double the grip then my summer tires. Not too mention I have at least 15% less power then you guys that day right? /Case closed.

THIS is where you get it twisted the other instructors were the issue. I'd say short of Thai, Marc, Justin, Tim, Pete, Blue M3 guy, and ME the other guys didn't have there students in check and were running like mad men in our group and even causing backups. Get your facts straight, we went over this already I wasn't one of those idiot instructors.

HKSGTII and S1 cams how much you make on the dyno when Petey tuned you??

ACD is better yes, but if it's 3 lighted it's not working, that means the Wavetrac and ACD Flash is not working and it's worse than your car.

For comparison, you can tell the amount of grip your tires have over mine and the power you're putting down.


I also have videos of Marc and Mark going by me a couple of times using 2 different lines. Mark uses the line I tend to use. Whos faster? Regardless of mods who's faster? because if Mark is "not doing it right" he should not be faster. See where I'm going here.

Everyone tries to bag on me instead of worrying about themselves, then I get you guys bagging on my mod choices, then I get you guys bagging on my supporters or who I choose to spend my money with. You see the trend here get off my nuts. IF I ask for your help great if not keep your opinions to yourselves, because giving advice to someone with more experience than you is considered trash talking. That's like me telling Fineberg what he needs to do at Nats or what Marc needs to do this weekend at Monti because of what I see or hear the way he drives. Like WhoTF am I to tell them anything about their driving and their cars, hopefully this soaks into you guys trolling minds.

Originally Posted by honda-guy
when i drove your car at trackdaze (with all the issues you claim the car have that day), i basically drove the same line that i drove with my car. only difference is i brake earlier because you have all season tires. when i felt that the ACD wasn't working (more fwd tendency), i still drove the same line.

i often drive my student's cars in orientation laps, i always show them the same line doesnt matter if it's fwd, rwd, awd, what tires or brakes that they have on the car. just saying. there might be a slight variation when going at higher speed but not a drastic variation of the line.
I know how to drive the line. I was at TD to show someone else how to drive it, which he grasped pretty well due to my instruction/communication/his natural talent his first time on Lightning was a breeze. For me I was using TD as a "getting to know the car weekend". I thought I would be on semi-slicks by now and wanted to get as much time seeing the limits on the crap tires, which explained different lines, off line, but I wasn't comfortable with brakes the whole weekend. Also I'm glad you mentioned the issues and tires that I still have today.
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:29 AM
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hook da azn brother up with some of them fake azz carbon wrap. i want to add 50 whp to my car. do it up son.
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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Holy cow. there is so much BS in your posts, Nelson. The crazy thing is that you actually believe all the stuff you're saying about lines, tires and other crap. How many people so far have told you 'you're doing it wrong' and how many more will it take for you to believe that maybe there is something wrong with what you're doing and maybe it isn't the car or the tires? You said you'll take advice from more experienced people, well those people have spoken (several times) but all you do is fire back excuse after excuse. I challange you to find an instructor that agrees with what you're saying...

Not to go off on you again, but in a nutshell here is what scares me the most about you and your driving. Almost everyone I know had this preconceived notion that they were gods gift to asphalt before they did their first track day. However, after doing just one session on their first day, almost every one of those people were hit with reality; the reality that they haven't got a clue about what it takes 'drive a car fast'. You, on the other hand, when presented in the same situation, came away thinking you ARE gods gift to asphalt. That is very scary!

Justin, myself, Thai and everyone else I know who calls themselve an instructor has EARNED that title. Its not something that is automatically given to a person because they have a fast car, or x number of track days or because they know a person. It has to be earned. All those guys put their time in by doing tons and tons of track days, listening to everything that was told to them by their instructors, having a through understanding of car control/dynamics and being able to communicate that info clearly to a student.

The reason I went off on you at TD is because I felt sole responsibilty for allowing you into the PCD event as an INSTRUCTOR. I can still recall seeing your email and thinking to myself "either this guy is totally full of himself/**** or he really is as good as he says he is". I know now I should have went with my gut and just let you attend as a student rather than an instructor. If I did that we wouldn't even be having this discussion. It was painfully obvious to everyone of the people who I talked to after the event that you were not an instructor and had no business teaching anyone anything. The only one who still believed you should be instructing after that event was you. That is a fact.

You then took that experience of having been an 'instructor' at PCD and capitolized on it by getting into trackdaze as an instructor. Because of that, I felt it was my duty to inform you that you were a danger to yourself, your student and everyeone else on track with you. Maybe my timing & delivery weren't the greatest, but then again, you made it your business to let the whole group know you are gods gift to asphalt, so it was only fair that same group got to hear another side to the story. The fact that you decided to ignore this only made matters worse. After trackdaze I realized you weren't going to come to grips with reality and anything myself or anyone else said would fall on deaf ears, so I let nature take it course... and here we are today.

I probably am wasting my time typing this out, but if anything it gives others in the group who didn't know the whole story have a better picture of how all this came to be.
Old Aug 24, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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