PCD: 2013-2014 Till We Break It Edition
Yeah...my "knock" and power loss was nothing more than spark plug that was super loose in #4. Apparently when I replaced the plugs before CTD2 I didn't properly torque them down and they all worked loose... I never would have guessed plugs need 23ft/lbs in the S52, I probably had them at 10-12ft/lbs initially. Moral of the story: Put a torque wrench to your plugs.
What were track surfaces like where this was happening? If anyone can help with the throttle input tire hop effect, it is Shoe. We are quite experienced with that!
It seems when you get past a certain grip level with these Evo's it makes the diff's freakout or something, like the car spaz's out. You totally have to change your driving style to drive around the problem. It takes away from what Evo's do best, digging out of a corner and putting the power down.
I think all our suspension issue's are from the larger size HoHo's (Thai maybe your aero and HoHo's are causing that grip level and wheel hop). The increased grip and longer suspension travel from larger tire size really screws things up. Its almost like the rear of the car needs to have less grip to allow the rear of car to move and flow with the front.
I want to run 285's and then the 315's to prove if I am right or wrong. I liked the car better on 285's from last year to this year. I think the 315's can be the better set up, but we are still chasing down the right settings to make the car right.
It seems when you get past a certain grip level with these Evo's it makes the diff's freakout or something, like the car spaz's out. You totally have to change your driving style to drive around the problem. It takes away from what Evo's do best, digging out of a corner and putting the power down.
I think all our suspension issue's are from the larger size HoHo's (Thai maybe your aero and HoHo's are causing that grip level and wheel hop). The increased grip and longer suspension travel from larger tire size really screws things up. Its almost like the rear of the car needs to have less grip to allow the rear of car to move and flow with the front.
I want to run 285's and then the 315's to prove if I am right or wrong. I liked the car better on 285's from last year to this year. I think the 315's can be the better set up, but we are still chasing down the right settings to make the car right.
you can see in the vid at 2:30 mark, the rear hop as i'm on power exiting. this was from last weekend at lighting. i don't think i'm loosing that much speed because i stay on the throttle and the front wheels just pull the car forward. it does unsettle the car and makes it track out farther. if it didn't happen, then i can probably carry more speed through the turn and not worry about it tracking out farther from the hop. i also think it has to do with the max lock rear diff, with one rear wheel being off the ground (or low traction). like you get wheel hop on those karts with solid rear axle and no diff. btw, i'm running 275/35/18 A6. i don't notice it with street tires.
Last edited by honda-guy; Apr 29, 2013 at 06:08 AM.
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Who else wants to come play @ NJMP Lightning with Trackdaze?
Jeffro
Mr. Turbo
Ben B.
Nate
James
Andy Y.
Tim S.
I'm talkin to all chu guyz.
Me, Thai, Pete and Cupcake can instruct. Justin might be able to instruct too, but I have to ask him.
Last year was a pretty good time. I think we had around 15 or so people there. Trackdaze always puts on a good event with lots of track time for a decent price.
Jeffro
Mr. Turbo
Ben B.
Nate
James
Andy Y.
Tim S.
I'm talkin to all chu guyz.
Me, Thai, Pete and Cupcake can instruct. Justin might be able to instruct too, but I have to ask him.
Last year was a pretty good time. I think we had around 15 or so people there. Trackdaze always puts on a good event with lots of track time for a decent price.
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I am running the NGK BKR6EIX (ngk6418 on my site)...they are the same plugs as the 2.0L WRX so we always have them in stock.
Yeah...my "knock" and power loss was nothing more than spark plug that was super loose in #4. Apparently when I replaced the plugs before CTD2 I didn't properly torque them down and they all worked loose... I never would have guessed plugs need 23ft/lbs in the S52, I probably had them at 10-12ft/lbs initially. Moral of the story: Put a torque wrench to your plugs.
Who else wants to come play @ NJMP Lightning with Trackdaze?
Jeffro
Mr. Turbo
Ben B.
Nate
James
Andy Y.
Tim S.
I'm talkin to all chu guyz.
Me, Thai, Pete and Cupcake can instruct. Justin might be able to instruct too, but I have to ask him.
Last year was a pretty good time. I think we had around 15 or so people there. Trackdaze always puts on a good event with lots of track time for a decent price.
Jeffro
Mr. Turbo
Ben B.
Nate
James
Andy Y.
Tim S.
I'm talkin to all chu guyz.
Me, Thai, Pete and Cupcake can instruct. Justin might be able to instruct too, but I have to ask him.
Last year was a pretty good time. I think we had around 15 or so people there. Trackdaze always puts on a good event with lots of track time for a decent price.
