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Old Nov 13, 2004, 08:57 AM
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This a very interesting concept, but I am not sure how it is going to survive. I am going to throw on my marketing hat now. First problem: Sponsorship. There no grandstands or audience for these events. What sponsor is going to give somebody money to "advertise" for them if there is no one to advertise too. Plus, any sponsor is going to want some kind of decal on your car. I bet all the current drivers are sponsored by the respective companies they work for.

Now the events. I looked on there forum today and noticed that the event was cancelled today due to rain. I find this interesting since this event is held on legal roads with legal speed limits. I seem to be able to drive to work in the rain at legal speeds and survive. Then somebody stated that the rally would be a "fair weather" events because of "high speed passing" and being "pursued". The more I read, the more it sounds like street racing. Technically, the optimal time to finish a race should be the time it takes to finish the rally at legal speeds. I have a feeling this isn't true.

My next problem would be with cheating. Is there independant timers from a different organization that will run these events? It would be really easy to cheat on these events.
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Originally Posted by jj_008
This a very interesting concept, but I am not sure how it is going to survive. I am going to throw on my marketing hat now. First problem: Sponsorship. There no grandstands or audience for these events. What sponsor is going to give somebody money to "advertise" for them if there is no one to advertise too. Plus, any sponsor is going to want some kind of decal on your car. I bet all the current drivers are sponsored by the respective companies they work for.
THe only driver/co-driver team that has pre-existing sponsors is the 2 guys that race in SCCA events. However, those sponsors aren't sponsoring them for HMS.

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Now the events. I looked on there forum today and noticed that the event was cancelled today due to rain. I find this interesting since this event is held on legal roads with legal speed limits. I seem to be able to drive to work in the rain at legal speeds and survive. Then somebody stated that the rally would be a "fair weather" events because of "high speed passing" and being "pursued". The more I read, the more it sounds like street racing. Technically, the optimal time to finish a race should be the time it takes to finish the rally at legal speeds. I have a feeling this isn't true.
I agree, we were all upset that the event got cancelled (was a couple weks ago tho, not yesterday), and from what I hear it was one of the main sponsors for the event, they went out and drove the course the night before and decided that they did not want us driving it... wtf?? so the motto is 'drive to live' but we can't drive in normal conditions?? The organizers have now agree that the only reason an event would be cancelled in the future is snow or 'extreme weather' (i'm guessing that means something along the lines of a flood).

These are normal TSD events though. So if you had a 35 mile stretch of road and the speed limit was 35, you've got an hour, I don't see why anyone would be getting passed. But if you start hitting traffic lights, curves, whatnot that slows you down, you do have to recover the time somehow, if you speed, it's your call, any tickets and you are disqualified from the event. Get caught actually door-to-door racing agains someone and they will kick you out of the league (i guess that's the correct word).

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My next problem would be with cheating. Is there independant timers from a different organization that will run these events? It would be really easy to cheat on these events.
the driver/co-driver are not reponsible for time-keeping. The checkpoints are operated by HMS, and they report all the times for the final scores.
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Just an update

It’s official! Local and National sponsors are ready for RallySport. The new 2004 / 2005 Rally Fuzion Schedule for the Northwest is officially released.
The first 100 Rallyteams (100 cars) will be eligible for full sponsorship benefits so form your team NOW and DRIVE TO LIVE!

2004 – 2005 Rally Fuzion schedule
Rugged Mt. Hood Challenge (pre-season) - Sept. 25th - Click "HERE" for video coverage
Hood River Fever (pre-season) - Oct. 30th
Rally Fuzion Challenge I (Championship- pre-season) Nov. 27th

SCORPION SERIES 2005
NeuSpeed Challenge (pre-season) - Feb. 26th
Ground Dynamics (pre-season) - Mar 26th
Fuzion Zone Challenge (pre-season) - Apr. 30th

STREET BATTLE SERIES 2005
Tuners Challenge - May 28th
Columbia River Madness - June 25th
Rugged Mt. Hood Challenge - July 30th

URBAN KOMBAT SERIES 2005

Hood River Fever - Aug 27th
Power Boost 500 - Sept. 24th

XTREME CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES 2005
NOS, Hitting the Bottle Challenge - Oct. 29th
Rally Fuzion Challenge II (Championship)Nov. 25th

Portland, Oregon – The National RallySport Association has officially sanctioned Hyperformance MotorSports to conduct 13 RallySport events in the Oregon/SW Washington region. The first RallySport event named “RUGGED MT. HOOD CHALLENGE” is an exciting drivers paradise through the MT. Hood area. Speed is a simple concept. You either have it or you don’t. In RallySport, speed and horsepower is not the only factors needed to win. Driving skill and intelligence is needed to be a champion.

Driver’s from all over the Northwest are gathering together to compete for their share of the $25,000.00 2004 / 2005 season purse. The National RallySport Association (NWRSA) & Hyperformance MotorSports welcomes all serious drivers to the exciting and challenging world of RALLYSPORT

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Old Nov 29, 2004, 09:53 AM
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oh yeah, one more piece of information for those who were wondering. Every stage has a time window (of course) be that a 'rally-sport' stage (follow posted speed limit exactly) or 'hyper-stage' (maintain an average speed). The windows are set by the HMS staff. They guy who drives it does them in an '86 Ford Escort (that smokes, bad). So there is no way that the windows are too fast to drive in safely.
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tyler i got your pm, i will talk to my codriver again. if you enter do you run all of the events? there seems to be a lot of them. what would i need to get started. i want to do it, and have a codriver, and then i have another buddy that wants to do it as well. he is a great driver. who else from this website is interested. we should do an evo/lancer group, we could pick up some sposors i bet. premier mitsu, where almost every one of us bought our cars, or even partial sponsorship from the website itself.
Old Nov 29, 2004, 01:03 PM
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It is best to enter in all the events, as this gives you the best chance at collecting points and winning the championship. You don't really 'need' anything other than you, your car, and co-driver to get started. I can talk to my agent about a time for you to run the qualification route, and I have a copy of the "Rally Fuzion" route from this last weekend, to give you an idea of what a season event is like. One of my responsibilities as a captain, and us as a team, is finding our own sponsors. The 1st 100 cars registered (AFAIK) are going to be fully sponsored for the ENTIRE season by GI Joes. I will find out the exact details soon for that. The biggest selling point for sponsors is that this is organized and LEGAL, whereas street racing, which this is the alternative too, is illegal and killing many people every year. After being in the even this weekend, I am soo pumped to get started up next year.

Let me know if you want a copy of the route, and the qualification routes are posted in the 'downloads' section on www.hyperformancemotorsports.com
Old Nov 29, 2004, 01:15 PM
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how many of the 100 are already in.
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I am not sure, haven't been given many of those details, that deal was set up on saturday. We had 28 cars in the event this weekend, so at least that many.
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is the qualifing route hard, or did you just kind of breeze through it?
Old Nov 29, 2004, 01:19 PM
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it's such a breeze, and they post the route up on the website, so you can practice it too, and they give you the time window, so if need be, you can park down the street if you're too fast (i did that )
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how do they confirm your time? if the event is already over, and i needed to do it, would they send someone out to time us?
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well, for the event, it's too late, it would just be a fun run to take. For the qualifications they come out and time you, both routes are loops, and they check your mileage to make sure you went the correct way
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^ i get it. i am still a little chakey on the day of events. what is the time split between cars, do you get pacenotes? are the roads closed, how many passes do you get? ect. i really want to do this, but i am not sure if i can not work on all those days.
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2 or 3 minutes between cars at the start
roads are not closed, each stage can be successfully completed without driving illegally (takes mad skill for that, but that's the point of it all).
I'm not sure what 'pacenotes' are, but you get the directions (turn by turn) for the next stage at it's beginning checkpoint.
1 pass only
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pacenotes- the driving directions as given to the driver, from the codriver while in motion.
so i assume they are just something generic, and everybody gets the same ones.


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