Who wants a NW Dynoflash custom tune
World One Performance hosted Phil from Element tuning recently at FAME automotive in Redmond: Phone 425-869-8324. They've got a Mustang AWD dyno and a guru technician.
Al - Does the custom tune ($375) include the 2 hour dyno time, or do we have to pay for that seperate? I can call the guys at FAME to get a full day rate, just let me know.
If that's the case, I am in for the #2 spot for sure.
Al - Does the custom tune ($375) include the 2 hour dyno time, or do we have to pay for that seperate? I can call the guys at FAME to get a full day rate, just let me know.
If that's the case, I am in for the #2 spot for sure.
Originally Posted by sandm
my .02...I had a mail-in flash and did the custom road tune in march in slc.
not worth the money. I couldn't detect any real gains and al's comments were that the car was dialed in well to begin with. he didn't do but a minor adjustment.
al has a great product, but the mail-in seems to be dialed in so well, no reason to do a custom tune. I wish(hindsight) that I would have just stayed in Boise and put the cash toward a full standalone.
it would appear that a custom tune would be warranted for someone running meth/gt35 or some other large hp car, but most of them are going full standalone.
downside as well..if you upgrade again, you are just going back to a mail-in again...
again, my .02 and don't get me wrong, al has a wonderful product
, but he has done so many now, that a mail in seems to be as effective as a custom tune..
not worth the money. I couldn't detect any real gains and al's comments were that the car was dialed in well to begin with. he didn't do but a minor adjustment.
al has a great product, but the mail-in seems to be dialed in so well, no reason to do a custom tune. I wish(hindsight) that I would have just stayed in Boise and put the cash toward a full standalone.
it would appear that a custom tune would be warranted for someone running meth/gt35 or some other large hp car, but most of them are going full standalone.
downside as well..if you upgrade again, you are just going back to a mail-in again...
again, my .02 and don't get me wrong, al has a wonderful product
, but he has done so many now, that a mail in seems to be as effective as a custom tune..This being the case, generally I can pick up at least 5 - 7 whp with the custom tune on almost any car and in some cases as much as 15 - 20 additional whp. While the 5 - 7 whp may not jump out and snap you off your chair it is a significant improvement.
It is also possible - although doubtful - that a car may LOOSE power from the base flash with a custom tune! If the settings weer too agressive for a individual car then it would need to be de-tuned slightly.
The MAIN POINT of custom tuning is to COLLECT LIVE DATA from the INDIVIDUAL CAR. This data is reviewed to make tuning decisions which are then tested in real world conditions. often you apre paying for a tuner's time, experience and judgement and not the actual power.
In any event - those who sample my new data logging set up which actually gives the end user a print out of all vital engine data will realize what a great value custom tuning represents.
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
In any event - those who sample my new data logging set up which actually gives the end user a print out of all vital engine data will realize what a great value custom tuning represents.
Even if "no", I'd like to show up and see what everyone else gets done to their cars!
Originally Posted by 22psiEVO
World One Performance hosted Phil from Element tuning recently at FAME automotive in Redmond: Phone 425-869-8324. They've got a Mustang AWD dyno and a guru technician.
Al - Does the custom tune ($375) include the 2 hour dyno time, or do we have to pay for that seperate? I can call the guys at FAME to get a full day rate, just let me know.
If that's the case, I am in for the #2 spot for sure.
Al - Does the custom tune ($375) include the 2 hour dyno time, or do we have to pay for that seperate? I can call the guys at FAME to get a full day rate, just let me know.
If that's the case, I am in for the #2 spot for sure.
My new data logging system gives more data than any dyno set up directly from the car under real world operating conditions. every one gets a print out of all vital engine data before and after.
However - the Mustang dyno is an excelent product and i can attest that is very accurate to real world tuning.
My issue is that i like to road test every car that comes off a dyno anyway so its usually easier to just hok up my equipment and tune the car as its driven.
I am open to either path - however if we have to go the dyno route I will have to investigate cost, availability and there will be an additional charge per car.
Originally Posted by madpacket
Hey Al, would you offer just a service of doing a datalog diagnostic, without the tuning? I'd like to see how my car is performing, numbers-wise. But I use the Xede teehee. Also I have an 05 and don't want to reflash the ecu at this point due to warranty.
Even if "no", I'd like to show up and see what everyone else gets done to their cars!
Even if "no", I'd like to show up and see what everyone else gets done to their cars!
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Yes - I rememer your car well. It is true that in some situations I have found that the through the mail tunes require virtually NO modifications what so ever. However, generally in most cases there is some meat left on the bones with a proper through the mail tune as they are calibrated to work on a wide swath of similarly modified cars under various conditions (hence the extra large margin of error).
This being the case, generally I can pick up at least 5 - 7 whp with the custom tune on almost any car and in some cases as much as 15 - 20 additional whp. While the 5 - 7 whp may not jump out and snap you off your chair it is a significant improvement.
It is also possible - although doubtful - that a car may LOOSE power from the base flash with a custom tune! If the settings weer too agressive for a individual car then it would need to be de-tuned slightly.
The MAIN POINT of custom tuning is to COLLECT LIVE DATA from the INDIVIDUAL CAR. This data is reviewed to make tuning decisions which are then tested in real world conditions. often you apre paying for a tuner's time, experience and judgement and not the actual power.
In any event - those who sample my new data logging set up which actually gives the end user a print out of all vital engine data will realize what a great value custom tuning represents.
This being the case, generally I can pick up at least 5 - 7 whp with the custom tune on almost any car and in some cases as much as 15 - 20 additional whp. While the 5 - 7 whp may not jump out and snap you off your chair it is a significant improvement.
It is also possible - although doubtful - that a car may LOOSE power from the base flash with a custom tune! If the settings weer too agressive for a individual car then it would need to be de-tuned slightly.
The MAIN POINT of custom tuning is to COLLECT LIVE DATA from the INDIVIDUAL CAR. This data is reviewed to make tuning decisions which are then tested in real world conditions. often you apre paying for a tuner's time, experience and judgement and not the actual power.
In any event - those who sample my new data logging set up which actually gives the end user a print out of all vital engine data will realize what a great value custom tuning represents.
just to throw this out there. I am very happy with the results of the flash. if you are looking for a custom tune, this is the way to go if you are not interested in the standalone setup. the post above is an old post that al found..
I believe it wholehartedly. he was able to tune my car with a ttm flash and didnt find a whole lot left after the fact. shows how much al has perfected his product..
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
How about 2nd week in November ?
I need 5 guys
$375 each for a full custom road tune with my new 10 channel data logging system and a print out of all tuning parameters before and after
$299 for existing customer retune same as above
$175 for base flashes installed on location with quick road tune
$650 for Evo Ecutek tune
$100 deposit to paypal@dynoflash.com to hold a spot
ONLY THOSE with deposits pick a spot
NOTE- I spend a full 2 hours on each car which is how long it takes to do a perfect job - I can only tune 6 cars - 7 cars per day this way but IMHO is better than trying to sqeeze in 12 or 13 cars ion one mad dyno day
November 12
10:00 a.m. - 12:00 noon Chris P. (Deposit Paid)
12:00 - 2:00 p.m.
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.
6:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.
ONLY Those who have a deposit may reserve a time slot - first come first served on these spots
Thanks - hopefully we can get the 5 guys I need
I need 5 guys
$375 each for a full custom road tune with my new 10 channel data logging system and a print out of all tuning parameters before and after
$299 for existing customer retune same as above
$175 for base flashes installed on location with quick road tune
$650 for Evo Ecutek tune
$100 deposit to paypal@dynoflash.com to hold a spot
ONLY THOSE with deposits pick a spot
NOTE- I spend a full 2 hours on each car which is how long it takes to do a perfect job - I can only tune 6 cars - 7 cars per day this way but IMHO is better than trying to sqeeze in 12 or 13 cars ion one mad dyno day
November 12
10:00 a.m. - 12:00 noon Chris P. (Deposit Paid)
12:00 - 2:00 p.m.
2:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m.
4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.
6:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
8:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.
ONLY Those who have a deposit may reserve a time slot - first come first served on these spots
Thanks - hopefully we can get the 5 guys I need
Evolving Member
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 305
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From: WA
Al,
I am in for the custom tune, give me a couple days to get you the deposit.
I just got flashed from you a month ago and i am going to add upper and lower IC piping, APS bov (possibly), and a test pipe, will any of this effect the tune that i have now until you come to seattle.
thanks,
Lance
I am in for the custom tune, give me a couple days to get you the deposit.
I just got flashed from you a month ago and i am going to add upper and lower IC piping, APS bov (possibly), and a test pipe, will any of this effect the tune that i have now until you come to seattle.
thanks,
Lance
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
Generally i prefer road tuning which is why i set up 2 hours per car
My new data logging system gives more data than any dyno set up directly from the car under real world operating conditions. every one gets a print out of all vital engine data before and after.
However - the Mustang dyno is an excelent product and i can attest that is very accurate to real world tuning.
My issue is that i like to road test every car that comes off a dyno anyway so its usually easier to just hok up my equipment and tune the car as its driven.
I am open to either path - however if we have to go the dyno route I will have to investigate cost, availability and there will be an additional charge per car.
My new data logging system gives more data than any dyno set up directly from the car under real world operating conditions. every one gets a print out of all vital engine data before and after.
However - the Mustang dyno is an excelent product and i can attest that is very accurate to real world tuning.
My issue is that i like to road test every car that comes off a dyno anyway so its usually easier to just hok up my equipment and tune the car as its driven.
I am open to either path - however if we have to go the dyno route I will have to investigate cost, availability and there will be an additional charge per car.
How does that work, Al? Do you specifically look for hosting spots with long deserted straightaways for the road tuning?
Also I understand mitsu can detect the reflashes on 05 ecus. Does that mean they can detect if it is simply not stock flash, or just if it has been ever been custom flashed? What do you charge for flashing back to stock?
One last thing, I want to add cams. Would you recommend against 280s in favor of 272s or 264s?
thanks
Last edited by madpacket; Oct 4, 2005 at 03:24 PM.