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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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Washington exhaust laws?

A cop made a comment about my exhaust the other day. He told me to put the stock one back on (even though my exhaust is stock ) He said the ticket gets more and more expensive each time you get one if you don't fix it. So what's the actual law? Is cat-back ok? Is just an axle-back still illegal? Is it statewide or by county? If it's by county, does that mean the county you got the ticket in or the county where the car is registered? Anyone know?
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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sounds like an a**hole
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jr.
A cop made a comment about my exhaust the other day. He told me to put the stock one back on (even though my exhaust is stock ) He said the ticket gets more and more expensive each time you get one if you don't fix it. So what's the actual law? Is cat-back ok? Is just an axle-back still illegal? Is it statewide or by county? If it's by county, does that mean the county you got the ticket in or the county where the car is registered? Anyone know?
Research your local dmv laws. That should give you your answer.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Tell him to crawl his fat *** under the car and look at the stock muffler with the part numbers and all.

Technically anything that amplifies the exhaust is illegal. Its a tricky subject.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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sounds like an a**hole
He was... I was throwing up on the side of the road (food poisoning, horrible night) and he was threating to give me a ticket for my exhaust. He breathalyzed me!!!!... He was a queen anne cop.



Originally Posted by rcheung
Research your local dmv laws. That should give you your answer.
I've been meaning to do that, but I hate trying to find information on a government site, specifically dmv. They are made to be as hard to navigate as possible. I'll do that now and see what I can find.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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I just checked the dol site and I didn't see anything. I did a search on the site but all I found out was what an exhaust does.... Nothing about what's legal. However, in the motorcycle manual there was something about amplifying the sound is illegal.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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Seattle, Issquasah, Kent, renton, federal way polices are a**holes!

i have loud exhaust.... cop didnt botter me.. My friend Ramses have ETS 3.5 and it louddest than mine like 2 x or 3x time.. and he havent got ticket.. just warning at bonney lake (a**hole cop)...

also.. my buddy in oraange 53'chevy drag truck.. header cutoff... it super loud and use leaded racing fuel 118 octane... and cop didnt botter him too... my other buddy same thing with his 70 Chevelle Maillbu...
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:43 PM
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What I found out:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=173-58-080

(1) For the purposes of this section "vehicle" means any motor driven contrivance used as a means of transportation or recreation off of public highways.

(2) Initial inspection. An initial inspection of the vehicle exhaust system shall be conducted to determine if the following defects or modifications exist:

(a) The absence of a muffler;

(b) The presence of a muffler cut-out, bypass, or similar device which is not standard or normal equipment for the exhaust system being inspected;

(c) Defects in the exhaust system including, but not limited to, pinched outlets, and holes or rusted through areas of the muffler or pipes;

(d) The presence of equipment which will produce excessive or unusual noise from the exhaust system.
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(4) Vehicle operation. The vehicle shall be operated as follows:

(a) Controlled ignition vehicles. The engine shall be operated at a normal operating temperature with transmission in park or neutral. Sound level measurements shall be made at three-fourths (75 percent) of the RPM for rated horsepower ± 100 RPM of meter reading.

(b) Vehicles with motorcycle engines. The engine shall be operated at normal operating temperatures with the transmission in neutral. If no neutral is provided, the vehicle shall be operated either with the rear wheel or wheels 2-4 inches (5-10 centimeters) clear of the ground, or with the drive chain or belt removed. The sound level measurement shall be made with the engine speed stabilized at one of the following values:

(i) If the engine data is available, test the vehicle at one-half (50 percent) of the RPM for maximum rated horsepower ± 100 RPM.

(ii) If the engine data is not available, and if the vehicle has a tachometer showing the manufacturer's recommended maximum engine speed ("red line"), test the vehicle at 60 percent of the "red line" RPM ± 100 RPM.

(iii) If the engine data and red line RPM are not available, test the vehicle at:

(A) 3500 ± 100 RPM for engines with total cylinder displacement between 0-950 cc (0-58 in.3).

(B) 2800 RPM ± 100 RPM for engines with total cylinder displacement greater than 950 cc (58 in.3).

(c) Diesel engine vehicles. The engine shall be operated at normal operating temperatures with transmission in park or neutral. Sound level measurements shall be made at the vehicle's maximum governed no-load speed. If the engine is not provided with a governor, the vehicle shall be operated in the same manner as a vehicle with a controlled ignition.
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Any thoughts???? The 15 min "Become a Lawyer Online Class" didn't cover this....




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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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Anything other than stock (that makes your exhaust louder is illegal. Plain in simple.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by hanahawaiian
Seattle, Issquasah, Kent, renton, federal way polices are a**holes!

i have loud exhaust.... cop didnt botter me.. My friend Ramses have ETS 3.5 and it louddest than mine like 2 x or 3x time.. and he havent got ticket.. just warning at bonney lake (a**hole cop)...

also.. my buddy in oraange 53'chevy drag truck.. header cutoff... it super loud and use leaded racing fuel 118 octane... and cop didnt botter him too... my other buddy same thing with his 70 Chevelle Maillbu...


You forgot Medina.... Been pulled over twice there for no reason. Cop typed my license plate number in wrong.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by importjake00
Anything other than stock (that makes your exhaust louder is illegal. Plain in simple.
So what about an after market exhaust with a silencer?
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Old May 30, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jr.
So what about an after market exhaust with a silencer?
If it is louder than stock, it is illegal. Stock reads about 91db.
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Old May 31, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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who care... one time cop pulled me over.. and i use my deaf card out.. or say why that motorcycle loud than mine? when they pass me.. cop like ummm then relase me go

well most cars are loud now... and cops are not botter.. but i think cops are picky and want check out cars and harassment you out
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Old May 31, 2008 | 12:28 AM
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Scenario #1

Cop: Sir your car is quite loud
Chris: Me deaf I didn't know
Cop: Oh thats cute...your exhaust it still loud
Chris: But why is that bike so loud when he pass me
Cop: How'd you here it
Chris:...mumbles...I'm screwed
Cop: sign here please

Pretty good eh Chris?
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Old May 31, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by hanahawaiian
who care... one time cop pulled me over.. and i use my deaf card out.. or say why that motorcycle loud than mine? when they pass me.. cop like ummm then relase me go

well most cars are loud now... and cops are not botter.. but i think cops are picky and want check out cars and harassment you out
Not many people can pull the deaf card that well.... And every cop is different along with every judge.



(I don't mean to bash all cops, but America defiantly has an issue. Our cops have way too much power. Most cops in england don't even carry guns and they have less violent crimes then we do. Have you seen a cops util belt lately? How many weapons do they need: baton, pepper spray, taser, 9mm... I don't want to start a whole thread about cops; this isn't the place for that, but I wanted to make a side note.)
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