Forget who's faster on straight...
After I tracked my car nothing, I mean NOTHING come even close to what this car can do around this price.

 

Not to point out your innacuracies or anything...

But to point out your innacuracies the quotes above should do nicely.

Let me know where this wasnt addressed in my post.

 

Ryan, all do respect... it would take the same driver in the cars to really tell what car is faster in a street race. Your ability might be much higher than his, your ***** might be bigger. I personally wouldn't have ever done what you guys did, and if I did I would have been timid of getting caught.

That's what the track is for.

 

^ +1. mods are very strict when it comes to street racing, best to stay away from sharing your stories. and please do take ur car to the track, its safe and legal

 

Well, to be honest, he's right too. For the price of an Evo, nothing compares

For the price of an MS3 (MSRP), nothing compares.

 

Your friend then needs to learn how to drive I would suspect. I have raced with MS3's at the track and they are okay. I have Ohlins and trust me NO stock suspension or modified suspension MS3 will EVER come close to keeping up short of Hoosiers. So if you are saying you are faster with stock suspension over an evo with Ohlins that is quite ironic. Unless your buddy just learned to drive yesterday or had winter tires on there is something wrong. Been around more than a few MS3 and seen them at the track...they do okay thats about it. Most evo's on street tires put down faster times than modified MS3's on hoosier's...if you don't believe me go to the track and see for yourself.

Backyard mountain runs don't mean anything as far as comparison's (atleast in my eyes)...case in point I frequently went on rides with friends R1's and GSXR1000's and could easily pass them in the corners. My car isn't faster they just couldn't ride.

On another note...just seen you are a detailer...may be hitting you up soon as it looks like you do good work. I have a whole slew of Menzerna products just never had the time to put them to use.

 

We all have our places to drive. I like the track plenty. But a nice dead-end forest road late at night and out of tourist season when others arent around suits me fine as well.

And many of the statements your making boil down to drivers skill. So if that really is the #1 factor, why bash a capable platform like the MS3?

If you knock $5K-7K off the MSRP of a evo you get the ralliart. And the ralliart is not as good on street or track as the MS3. (as confirmed by the journo's who tested with the same driver, same course, same day/weather)

Take all that with a grain of salt. I sold my MS3 for a evo, as did the OP. obviously we were ready to invest more $$$ to raise the envelope up to evo-like levels.

 

Please don't start saying how Miata's dominate the road courses too... I've seen a few MS3's at the track, but none that were even worth looking at after a session.

 

341hp/305tq with a TB exhaust, tune, cat delete, 3" fmic and MBR (dynojet)

 

if he says his ms3 is close to the evo - give him that.

what kind of TBE are you running? those are pretty good numbers there.

 

Bake the headlights and coat them black!

Same with the rears if they are chrome too.

Red and black go hand in hand.

 

Don't make me raise my '98 stock civic DX out of the junk yard and lolzkittensbbqms3 to show what car is superior!

 

dew it

 

To clarify a point, I don't think anyone is really bashing. I have seen everyone mentioning personal examples with different vehicles (evos, ms3s, etc.). Based on that definition I could say you previous ms3 owners are bashing Evos but I can clearly see that you aren't.

 

its more than we're allowed to bash our former cars as we were better able to comprehend its weak spots and how the Evo fulfils those, yet the evo has some weak points of its own that we must overcome.

I bet the OP wasnt loving the lack of cruise control on that trip from CA!

I miss the auto-climate control, storage capacity, fold down rear seats (my ex and I fit back there nicely!), fuel economy (observed nearly 29 mpg through the life of the Mazder), Cruise control, radio controls on the steering wheel and most importantly the FWD.

Edit: I dont miss the FWD