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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 09:09 AM
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Easier to tune for who exactly? Good luck getting a decent cold start idle with SD.
Its hit or miss from car to car, on the cold start. Another huge benefit to SD that everyone is completely ignoring is the complexity removed from the system.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Easier to tune for who exactly? Good luck getting a decent cold start idle with SD.
1) I have zero cold-start issues with SD. A little bit of a wandering idle though(~200 rpm wander, so its not much).

2) Easier to fine tune for your tuner. (duh)

3) No, it wont add any power. For me it netted -5whp and +1wtq. However, WHERE the power is shifted dramatically. Huge gains in low/mid HP/TQ, and a very linear power delivery rather than bouncing around the place. But no peak gains.

4) It will pass emissions just fine. But that is the same for MAF or SD as its done at the ECU.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by F0RSAKEN
Its hit or miss from car to car, on the cold start. Another huge benefit to SD that everyone is completely ignoring is the complexity removed from the system.
The REAL benefit to the community will be when you fix the retirement community bus and start giving rides to meets/events.

You cant ignore that.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by EvilTechnology
Ken- How does it effect your emmisions testing?
Not a clue. I havent had to yet. And when I do, Ill just register it up in Arlington.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan.Kauz
The REAL benefit to the community will be when you fix the retirement community bus and start giving rides to meets/events.

You cant ignore that.
'Tis gone.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Buffing

Hey Ryan picked up some Meguire's for some cut and the guy at Wesco Supply said I should use this Black Magic for polish what do you think about this combo?
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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^hope you're not polishing by hand!
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BrendanS
^hope you're not polishing by hand!
What? people actually do that?
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 11:30 AM
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The amount of cut you will achieve is a combination of compound, pad, speed and DA/Orbital.

What orbital and pad are you going to use? What's the intended outcome?

Black Magic: I was young and needed the money, what did he tell you? But seriously, i've never used that wax and cant find anything on it through my usual detail forums.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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Porter 7424XP or Meguiars G110v2 or Griot's Garage 6"

I've been reading about the Griot's and people like the lifetime warranty and the fact that it comes with a hook-and-loop pad, but otherwise it's a toss-up between the PC and GG. Griot's has more low-end power which could be a good or bad thing when polishing a car..

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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Easier to tune for who exactly? Good luck getting a decent cold start idle with SD.
My car idles fine on E85 with SD. Just a ***** to start on E85.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan.Kauz
The amount of cut you will achieve is a combination of compound, pad, speed and DA/Orbital.

What orbital and pad are you going to use? What's the intended outcome?

Black Magic: I was young and needed the money, what did he tell you? But seriously, i've never used that wax and cant find anything on it through my usual detail forums.
I don't know much about pads yet. I will have to do some more research on that. I want to find someone with an orbital I can rent for the weekend or wait a while so I can afford my own probably spend $100-150 on one heard good things about the Porter XP 7424. As far as I know the Black Magic is a polish not a wax the kid told me that it was a really good polish for black cars that and his friend who professionally details uses it. Unfortunately I couldn't find very many reviews on the internet and I'm somewhat hesitant to use it. As far as outcome I would like to remove most of if not eliminate the orange peel cause it looks terrible. Just want a black car that shines like its a black car and not a grey one.

The bottle reads:
Formulated especially for use in paint shops. Blends and smooths spot-painted surfaces. Can also be used to clean lightly oxidized surfaces. Contains no silicone or wax. May be used on new or original paint.

Application instructions: apply enough Black Magic to d o a section approx. 2X2 ft. Black Magic must be buffed in wet, and continue buffing untill all the polish has disappeared and surface is left clean and bright. Move buffer slowly and work well into paint.

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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by llDemonll
Porter 7424XP or Meguiars G110v2 or Griot's Garage 6"

I've been reading about the Griot's and people like the lifetime warranty and the fact that it comes with a hook-and-loop pad, but otherwise it's a toss-up between the PC and GG. Griot's has more low-end power which could be a good or bad thing when polishing a car..
The Griots orbital is a piece of junk. The orbital pattern is approximately 1/2 what the PC is, the cooling system blows, the "adjustable" handle will quite literaly snap all the locking "dots" the first time you set it down wrong, it will dump whack loads of heat into the pad, the backing plate is too small to be used with other pads.

The ONLY positives for the Griots orbital are: Cheap and it has a long cord.

I purchased their new orbital (instead of the PC) and had it for 1 car. Drove straight down to Griots and demanded my money back, including money for all their pads (including those which were over a year old) because the overall system was garbage.

Just get the PC. Its rock solid, used everywhere, customizable backing pad, and cools better than any orbital i've used in the RA line except the FLEX.

Pads: Lake country pads are very effective. You can get about 15-20 cars out of their polishing pads before I would scrap them. A bargain for only $8-12 each!
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Man do I miss my evo. Can't wait to get another.
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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Man do I miss my evo. Can't wait to get another.

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