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Man, he ****ing destroyed Frank.
Yeah not so much
Yeah not so much
I'd be surprised on the roids. Brock is just a big ol' corn-tick. Dana has pretty strict rules/testing for roids as well.
He was beating Frank's *** in the first fight, but it was Brock's first fight in the UFC. He clearly handled himself better this time around (pinning Frank's head/arm so that the strikes landed harder) and he clearly thought he could step out of the knee bar during the first fight and didn't rush into a similar mistake. Experience is big in any sport.
That friggin' Hendo KO of Bisping was epic. I like the base-jump punch to finish it off (even though Bisping was already out - that guy is a cocky som' batch!).
He was beating Frank's *** in the first fight, but it was Brock's first fight in the UFC. He clearly handled himself better this time around (pinning Frank's head/arm so that the strikes landed harder) and he clearly thought he could step out of the knee bar during the first fight and didn't rush into a similar mistake. Experience is big in any sport.
That friggin' Hendo KO of Bisping was epic. I like the base-jump punch to finish it off (even though Bisping was already out - that guy is a cocky som' batch!).
Brock did not deserve a title fight
IMO brock is no champion... hes a lucky, stuck up, son of a *****
Thankgod for henderson putting bisping in his place, no scorecard this round huh?
GSP had a good challange, would love to see him go up and fight Silva but i dont see it happening for a year or two
disappointed in the fitch fight and the belcher fight, Belcher had it 29-28 IMO
and i just dont think fitch is that great
IMO brock is no champion... hes a lucky, stuck up, son of a *****
Thankgod for henderson putting bisping in his place, no scorecard this round huh?
GSP had a good challange, would love to see him go up and fight Silva but i dont see it happening for a year or two
disappointed in the fitch fight and the belcher fight, Belcher had it 29-28 IMO
and i just dont think fitch is that great
Silva/Machida would be a great fight, When GSP goes up to 180-185? i would love to see him rock silva, should be an amazing fight, although silva hasnt been to exciting lately
Brock will get rocked soon and it wont be fedor
Brock will get rocked soon and it wont be fedor
I think Brock should fight Carwin. 4XL v 5XL! Plus, Carwin is undefeated as far as I know. As for whether Brock deserved a title fight, I would have liked to see him come into the UFC a little slower instead of facing an ex-champ in his first fight. Granted, Mir was still re-proving himself but he still had way more experience. Let's not forget that Brock was a fairly accomplished amateur wrestler before going to the joke that is the WWE. BTW - It was interesting to see Brock get caught with a knee or 2 by Mir that stunned him for a bit. Everyone has a button.
With that said, the heavyweight division is not that deep, honestly. Kongo has major holes, Velasquez is a tough som' batch, but he showed a chin against Kongo. Brock beat Herring (tons of experience), he beat Couture (granted, he's an old fart), and he was pounding Mir during their first fight. Now Fedor to the UFC would be very interesting.
My buddy and I have been talking about GSP v Silva for about 1.5 years now. Thiago tore through people and GSP dominated him. Not in the sense that Thiago was in major hurt afterwards, but GSP didn't let him do anything to him, really. GSP could take him down at will, but couldn't really finish the job.
IMO, GSP wouldn't be much of an issue for Silva though, since GSP walks around at 185. Silva is closer to 200 normally and has excellent defense, excellent striking, and insane jj when he uses it. Silva's fights haven't been super exciting but the fact is that no one is really challenging him at 185. Griffin normally walks around at 235 - 240 and you should see that size difference during their matchup at UFC 101 (looking forward to it!).
Now Silva v Machida, that sounds really nice! If Machida keeps himself going (which won't be difficult since he's been training/fighting since he was pretty much walking, seeing who his dad is), I don't know that he will be challenged heavily at 205 without someone like Silva coming up.
The Belcher fight was surprising. As for Fitch v Paulo, that was a super technical fight. Fitch is a badass wrestler with some jj experience whereas Paulo is a friggin' jj black belt with a background in judo. Fitch continued to stave off submission attempts while Paulo was always starting execution well. I didn't like seeing Fitch lead with an exposed neck continually, but he at least always had Paulo's legs down. Fitch probably should have taken more chances since he was able to keep Paulo at bay (especially by the 3rd round when Paulo was less committed due to tiring) but I understand not giving a jj black belt an opportunity.
With that said, the heavyweight division is not that deep, honestly. Kongo has major holes, Velasquez is a tough som' batch, but he showed a chin against Kongo. Brock beat Herring (tons of experience), he beat Couture (granted, he's an old fart), and he was pounding Mir during their first fight. Now Fedor to the UFC would be very interesting.
My buddy and I have been talking about GSP v Silva for about 1.5 years now. Thiago tore through people and GSP dominated him. Not in the sense that Thiago was in major hurt afterwards, but GSP didn't let him do anything to him, really. GSP could take him down at will, but couldn't really finish the job.
IMO, GSP wouldn't be much of an issue for Silva though, since GSP walks around at 185. Silva is closer to 200 normally and has excellent defense, excellent striking, and insane jj when he uses it. Silva's fights haven't been super exciting but the fact is that no one is really challenging him at 185. Griffin normally walks around at 235 - 240 and you should see that size difference during their matchup at UFC 101 (looking forward to it!).
Now Silva v Machida, that sounds really nice! If Machida keeps himself going (which won't be difficult since he's been training/fighting since he was pretty much walking, seeing who his dad is), I don't know that he will be challenged heavily at 205 without someone like Silva coming up.
The Belcher fight was surprising. As for Fitch v Paulo, that was a super technical fight. Fitch is a badass wrestler with some jj experience whereas Paulo is a friggin' jj black belt with a background in judo. Fitch continued to stave off submission attempts while Paulo was always starting execution well. I didn't like seeing Fitch lead with an exposed neck continually, but he at least always had Paulo's legs down. Fitch probably should have taken more chances since he was able to keep Paulo at bay (especially by the 3rd round when Paulo was less committed due to tiring) but I understand not giving a jj black belt an opportunity.
Last edited by yahu; Jul 12, 2009 at 05:53 PM.
Well put it this way, i dont see GSP going up for a while, atleast another year and if he does he will gain wait and walk tall like a 190-195
im done with brock, not getting anymore into that
Silva has had issues though recently and hasnt been to exciting nonetheless any decent fights for him
im done with brock, not getting anymore into that
Silva has had issues though recently and hasnt been to exciting nonetheless any decent fights for him
In the last year or so Silva clowned Thales Leites who is a monster jj black belt (he submits other jj black belts), Cote had the blowout, Irvin was ridiculous (that guy is too random in performance), and he choked Hendo. His style is a little flamboyant at times, but usually when he is sizing up and also when getting bored (e.g. - when he was slapping Thales' thigh when he wouldn't stand and fight).
I think Griffin will be a good challenge and should be a good fight. The nice thing about Griffin is he isn't afraid of getting in there and just bangin'. With the weight advantage he'll have and his ability in general, it should be a good fight!
I think Griffin will be a good challenge and should be a good fight. The nice thing about Griffin is he isn't afraid of getting in there and just bangin'. With the weight advantage he'll have and his ability in general, it should be a good fight!
Keenan, you're out of your mind if you think Brock is lucky. The man is a straight up BEAST. He knows how to fight, he knows how to wrestle. He has amazing strength and now since he has a few fights under his belt he is going to be around for a bit, and defiantly on top. He may be stuck up, but that dont determine if he is a good fighter or not.
And Silva will take GSP.
And Silva will take GSP.
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