The 8 MR came with the metal bov also used on the IX's. I'm only looking to run 22psi at max anyway. It's not important to hit my goal this time around, just curious if I would be close. Thanks for the reply.

I'm a great driver, but I never raced in my life. lol.

What numbers would i be looking at?
 

ok swo i set a date to get dynoed May 1st, i was wondering to all experts what i may be looking at for tq/hp.

mods:
stock motor
stock turbo
255 walbro
880 injecters
upgraded 3.5 intercooler
ams licp
hallman mbc
cobb intake
3 inch dp
perrin hfc
magnaflow 3 in cat back
grimmspeed bcs (mine was messed up only allowed 14 psi)



most of these parts are not installed yet waiting for a couple days before the tune. i would love for it t be a surprise. but i also wanna know if this tuner is good. a couple people i have talked to said they are great but this is my car.

thanks
Sean

its an 03 with a 9.8 hotside..

it'll do 300/300 most likely.

ok i was maybe hearing a little higher, i was hoping it was between 320-350. i have been researching a lot about it and looking at a lot of dynos and thats the numbers im hoping its between

There's a thread for that:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ega-merge.html

my fault didnt look around

What numbers would i be looking at?

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ok swo i set a date to get dynoed May 1st, i was wondering to all experts what i may be looking at for tq/hp.

mods:
stock motor
stock turbo
255 walbro
880 injecters
upgraded 3.5 intercooler
ams licp
hallman mbc
cobb intake
3 inch dp
perrin hfc
magnaflow 3 in cat back
grimmspeed bcs (mine was messed up only allowed 14 psi)



most of these parts are not installed yet waiting for a couple days before the tune. i would love for it t be a surprise. but i also wanna know if this tuner is good. a couple people i have talked to said they are great but this is my car.

thanks
Sean

I have a JDM EVO 7 in Pakistan.
I have the following mods installed...

93 octane
8MR Stock turbo
Hks Intake
Hks Carbon TI-Exhaust(with downpipe)
Blitz i-color Boost controller
Walbro 255
Built Block 2.0 ( Carillo Rods and Ross Pistons)
Exedy Twin Plate HD
HKS 272 with BC springs and retainers
ETS 3.5" IC and LP2

what numbers should i expect? and also do i need sumthing else?

How much will this make on 93:

4g64 block 2.4l
Wiseco 9:1 pistons
Manley H-beams
arp main and head studs
stock 8 head
BC 280 cams
stock 8 intake mani & tb
stock 8 turbo
stock 8 exh mani
megan o2
3" TBE
780cc PTE
Walbro 255
stock ecu w/ maf
31"x12"x4" intercooler
2.5" intercooler piping

Looking to get 350-400whp with this setup at 28psi or so, before i upgrade the fuel system and install kelford 280s and my 6262 setup and go for 600whp+.

anyone?

on pump gas, I'm going to say no... on e85 or race gas, possibly if you can drive your balls off :D

depends on dyno brand and octane

350+ area

500-550 at best I'm guessing though, not that much 2.4l 9:1 data a 2.0 8:1 is commonly 475-525 for reference. This is if you have enough fuel (need twin walbro + PTE 1000cc for 93)

03 evo8
catless tbe
o2 housing
intake
ix turbo
ebay 3.5" fmic
ams licp
kelford 272s
springs/retainers
injectors, fuel pump, headstuds blablabla

will 30 psi on 100oct be able to break 400whp?

I think you have a good shot at touching 400awhp/400tq which makes for one wicked ride, power everywhere {thumbup}

and mid 11s ?! :D lol. but wow quick reply thanks

yep {thumbup}

I'll find some info about a customer I tuned to 400/400 his name is mrcox

ill e-stalk him as well

here's the thread adWRXi 11.5 @ 118 407/404 30psi on e85

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...404tq-e85.html

{thumbup}

Thanks mellon, I was wondering more about the current setup tho.

I made a mistake and thought you had a big turbo, a stock 8 turbo is going to run out of breath ~ 400awhp and boost is going to taper off like nuts on a 2.4 :eek: spoolup will be incredible!!!

I edited my post as it was a little deceptive. As i will be going with a 6262 in the future. I was seeing a full boost of 22psi around 2700rpm on the stock 4g64 i had with the SOHC. How much will a 10.5 hotside help hold the boost?

oh gotcha...crafty aren't ya :)

I don't think the 10.5 is going to make enough difference to warrant the amount of work to install it.

Anyone wanna take a guess at this? Mellon or Aaron?

I think 600 at full tilt on e85 could be achievable, out of curiosity, which block?

Machine work was done by Watt Bigham and final assembly was done by me. Watt has built a lot of motors for Tony Palo aka Tony1.

Engine specs. Turbo tuffs, Mahle pistons 85.5mm, AMS balance shaft and AL crank pulley

4g63? 2.0?

yes 4G63 2.0l

best way to reach 400 with reliability and without turbo upgrade or messy idle (cams). car is a DD

mod list
330 awhp 333 tourque (pump gas, 23psi - i have the dyno chart)
Greddy Profec B spec II electronic boost controller
2 boost maps - 18psi, 23psi (Dyno tuned by TurboTrix in Sept 07)
Walboro 255 fuel pump
Full 3" Turbo XS turbo back exhaust w/test pipe
HKS SSQV BOV (re-circulated for idle)
HKS Intake
HKS Turbo Timer


ACT 3200 extreme clutch
ACT Streetlite flywheel

I think port polish exhaust mani, o2 housing, IM, bigger throttle body, LICP w/ETS or AMS 3" IC. probably up the fuel injectors to possibly up the current boost settings a little.

I may have named everything but i would like to know from a better standpoint of people who build the cars before i move to that direction in the near future.

all of those mods will improve efficiency, I would go with a better FMIC than a 3" a small turbo is going to pump out some crazy hot air

cool. is there a preference or should i just move upto a 3.5? i don't want to have to modify my front crash if i don't have too. the ets 3.5 does not require any mods.

the ets 3.5 will work good

How much will I gain using this setup?
 

I made 360/340 running on 91 @ 25psi with a green. I will soon be running with a 80MM Red and aquamist @ 30psi on 91. Does anyone have an idea where this might put me. Thanks!

Stock 2.0l
FP RED (80MM)
Aquamist HFS-5
Buschur Exhaust
PTE 1000cc Inj
25psi
Kelford 272's
3'5 FMIC
Megan Manifold
Injen ICP
ebay o2

injecting meth I assume? for reference most of my FP red customers do 430's on 93 octane and 520's on c16/e85 like fuels. You'll probably want to watch the torque on the stock shorty, you have the potential to make too much.

300-310

nice setup! wish i had the money! still trying to find a low mile evo 9 with no luck! lol

i dont know what you'll get but im waitng to find out. because thats all i plan on doing to mine as well.

you'll most likely need cams if you want 320-350hp on an old VIII turbo...should make 300 for sure tho

Where are you going in Ohio? Pure? Buschur? Slowmo? What type of dyno is it...

i would say around 300ish...every car is diff & it depends on the tune.

i just got mine tune and i did 306 hp 302 torque i had walboro, gsc s1 cams, full 3" exhaust with a test tipe, perrin intake, and a hallman pro at 23 psi on cbrds dyno. Stock motor and 9.8 hotside

Lol, how are people making guesses when the OP didnt even mention what type of dyno.

If you notice, that is exactly what I asked... (well asked what shop.. and then I'll venture a guesstimate)... Ohio here too... know most of the shops reputations..

i had around the same mods maybe a little more put down 354awhp with 23psi

Yeah, just noticed. I guess I was talking to the people saying numbers.

np, at least a couple of us are on the same page... OP still hasn't replied where it is getting tuned so we can get some informed input.

Posted a few pages ago, but my plans have changed. No clue what to expect on Buschur's Dyno next month. Will be running 93 octane and no higher than 25psi. Anyone care to give a guesstimate?

Stock Block
FP Red (ported Hotside)
BR TBE W/hfc
BR MBC
BR Air Filter Kit w/FP Intake Pipe
ETS 3" W/piping
Megan O2 housing
BR Ported Ex Mani, Intake Mani, TB
Walbro 255
1000CC injectors
HKS 272i/272e
Exedy Twin HD

[QUOTE=Hardware;8224274]I can tell you that on a dynojet it might be 430's but on the BR heart breaker Mustang Dyno it's going to be waaaaaay less. Doesn't matter what the dyno says, it's going to be quick as hell either way {thumbup}

On the heart breaker Dyno. haha. Thanks man. We'll see in a few weeks. Thanks for the reply. {thumbup}

lets see what u guys think of this:

1) 64mm ported red
2) 950cc + walboro
3) ported br mannifold
4) ported megan o2
5) catless tbe
6) 3.5'' ets kit
7) perrin intake

will run on 93octane, at around 23psi for now (stock clutch) on a mustang dyno.
also, how much of a diff would the gsc S1's make on this setup?

Lets see if anyone wants to guess where I'm going to be at on DynoJet {thumbup}

MIVEC Long Rod 2.4L

1. 4G64 Block (87mm 10:1)
2. IX Head (Extreme Port Job)
3. Custom GSC 12mm cams
4. FP Black (Extremely ported)
5. 4" intake SD
6. Ported exhaust manifold
7. ETS UICP/LICP
8. MilSpec 65mm TB
9. Magnus v5 (ported runners)
10. ETS 3.8" Garrett FMIC
11. 3" 02 Housing w/ 2.25" Wastegate dump
12. 3" Turbo back
13. FUEL E85!!! {thumbup}

So lets take some guess what my car will make.

Mikey

^^i would say another 50 wheel over your old set upbut a lot torguer on the street

I don't think you are close. If i kept the stock motor and just swapped the Red for the Black at the same boost level I would make a min of 40hp. But I'm upgrading cams, going to a high compression 2.4L, larger cams, and instead of 30psi I'm going to be running 37+psi. I expect to be 125hp more at a min.

Mikey

that's a hard one to guess at because mustang dyno's can differ wildly so I'll give it a stab with dynojet numbers since they aren't altered by the operator so much.

likely upper 300's and lower 400 with the S1's

2.4 10:1 e85 at full boost with all of that ported goodness...I think it has the potential for 600 at full tilt{thumbup}

thanks{thumbup}

if u already know how many hp u gonna gain, why ASK for opinion?
what is your point? Trying to show off your future Mods to every evom members? You are one funny LIL boy i ever see in the evo forum.

Johnny did 625/515 with 9:1, off the shelf S2s, and a stock head at 37psi.

I would put yours slightly over Luke, but I am superstitous and wont say the number out loud.

All I'm saying is I think it will be more than that! I don't have a ****ing clue what it is going to do. I know it will do 600-700, where in between I have no clue. That is what I was asking.

Nope, not showing off mods. If I was showing off mods I would make a huge thread just for myself! Thank you though!

Mikey

i went up to 330whp (+40) on crower cams alone from my previous tune, dont always go by what the book tells you... i love them they have excellent mid range power.

im going to say 722/604!

mark my words....more 2.4 builds will happen 1 year after your numbers are released than have been done over the last 3 years combined!


GSC S-omething, Magnus v5, FP Black......6k rpm to 8k rpm will be fun

I Just got my Evo 9 tuned and I was dissapointed in the numbers. dyno dynamics dynamometer. 22psi, whp was 281.6 and torque 298. seems a little low. I have a injen intake, nisei fmic. uicp and lower incp, perrin high flow cat. perrin downpipe. hks ti carbon exhaust. Hallman mbc, and deatschwerks 750cc injectors, walboro 255lph. when they were done tuning I started my car to leave and it was knocking. found out they injectors they just installed 2 of them were loose. could this have effected the tuning thus less horsepower? my cousin has the same exact set up minus the injectors, tuned at the same place and has 337 whp and 365 torque. any suggestiions? boost leak?

if the car was knocking yes the ecu will pull timing and in return you get less power.
if the injectors were loose they could been leaking out boost so yes that can also cause loss of power. a boost leak can cripple a car powerwise depending how bad it is.

This my Evo9 build.

FP Green HTA73 turbo, ported
FP 4R cams
FP beehive springs
ARC intake
FP Evo 8/9 3.25" / 84mm Intake Pipe
Ported stock EM
HKS turbo outlet
3" TBE, no cat
Greddy 24R FMIC
65mm ported TB
Ported stock IM.
Walbro 255
PTE 1000cc injectors
HKS BOV with recirc kit
ARP headstuds

Will get an ECU reflash and tune to 96 octane on a Dynojet.
Stock bottom and thinking how much max RPM and boost I should push? Car gets tracked often and conditions are hot and humid.

what do you think ill make on the dynojet??
 

mods: Kelford 272I/E cams, RC Enginering 750cc injectors, walbro 255lph FP Red, Buchur Deluxe 24.14.3.8 inch intercooler, all hard I/C pipes, evo 9 BOV, FP intake, Coated megan O2 turbo outlet, 3"down pipe, cat delete, HKS Ti Exhaust, MBC.

Either IVEY or Turbo trix will be doing the tune on the factory maf/ecu . I have not yet decided. they have both done tunes for me and I was satisfied with both. Im just waiting on my intake pipe to come in.....

What real WHP/TQ #'s should I be expecting??????

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ega-merge.html

If only on 93 octane i would guess high 300s whp and mid 300s torque. It will all depend on the tune.

those are almost the same EXACT mods that i have. I have a cat, I had a stock fmic when i got tuned, and it was a mustang dyno....my numbers are in my sig. you should be over 400hp and probably close to 400tq on a dynojet but as buchnerj said, it will depend a lot on the tune. good luck, im curious what your numbers are gonna be. if you dont mind, shoot me a pm when you get tuned

410/376

i say a good steady 1hp/3lb ft =] lol jk brO you should be close to 400 hp ish and 380 lb/ft {thumbup}

Thank you for your response. Do u think I went with undersized injectors?

depends on boost

I think if you are running pump gas the 750's are fine for about 500whp but if you go to e85 you would need larger. The 750's would be limited to about 375whp on e85 maximum.

Good Luck!

I got the RC 750cc's for free< thats why I used them. My intentions are for daily driving. They are not for the 1/4 mile or a dyno queen. Ill doubt ill ever use anything other than 93octane, or the SH_TTY winter 93 octane (E-10) 10%ETHANOL mix that Every gas station is REQUIRED to sell in NJ between oct-april.
My main concern was having Enough injector to do the job. Both local(EVOM Vendors) seemed to like the set up I chose. Thanks again for your help.

Mellon, Why not? 03 Evo VIII. 93 Octane, safe amount of boost on a stock turbo.

AMS LICP, FMIC
Perrin Intake
Tanabe TBE
Hallman MBC

just for starters?

I don't understand the question :confused:

Have you tried to dyno tune? i know boomba racing is having their evo day this saturday and 3 pulls on dyno for 60 bucks.

oh, sorry.
what do you think I will make after a tune with you with those mods?

gotcha, I would add walbro fuel pump to that list first, but typically we see 300awhp on the 03 with those mods but the fmic might bump it up a little more and it'll help it be more consistent in this hot weather. Add cams and it should do 350awhp+

cams and an fp red or black hopefully before the end of the year{thumbup}

:cool: very cool

Good deal need to get that turbo upgrade first. dont forget about the clutch action as well long as you keep the power low stocker will be fine

ok. i have already posted something in here. im looking to make at least 400 whp.
I have:
Perrin fmic
perrin filter
perrin ebcs
perrin stage 3
ams tbe
hks sqv BOV

im looking at gettin:
JM fab intake pipe
hks 272 cams
megan o2 housing
walbro 255 pump
muse uicp (short route)
ETS licp
buschur ported exhaust manifold
fuel injector clinic 850cc injectors (will these be good enough).
what else do i need to make my goal accomplishable. and with these parts what do u think i will be at. i will also probably go to atlantic motorsports for tuning.

making 400 on stockie turbo is pretty hard with out higher oct like e85 or meth to be honest. answers in bold. You should consider adding a 3" downpipe and testpipe. Guages aem wideband or innovate wideband Aem boost guage. Aem oil pressure(for use later with bigger turbo)

ok thanks. i have the AEM wideband. i was thinking a fp green later on down the road. isnt the ams tbe 3in? thats what i was told. i want to get rid of the hks bov. it was on when i bought it with some crappy part of an upper intercooler pipe. so i bought the stock bov and cant put it on. was thinking the aps since i saw good things about it on this site. i might just go with the ets uicp. i have the perrin 4.5" foam filter. and the fmic is 3.6". ill also look into different cams like the kelford 272s. and the perrin stage 3 off the shelf map is what i have for my parts that are currently on my car.

hta green??? I hope you plan on getting a built shorty to take advantage of it fully. i dont know much about ams exhuast except its loud i would imagine its a full 3". aps is goooood. oh for the perrin you mean a tune. need to get you a custom tune.

yea i know about getting the custom tune. there is a place in wilmington delaware where i supposedly can get it tuned. but i think ill make the trip to atlantic motorsports and get them to do it. yea i was thinking the HTA green.

So I recently purchased an 05 evolution 8. I'm looking into taking my car to synaptic 3 in Candia, NH and getting it tuned. Here are my current mods.

- HKS carbon ti catback
-Megan Racing resonated test pipe
-Injen intake
-Injen upper intercooler piping
- Brian Crower 272 cams
-Megan racing downpipe
-Walbro fuel pump
-Evo 9 blow off valve
- Shep racing rebuilt tranny
- ACT clutch and I'm not sure what kind of lightweight flywheel

I'm looking to make around 330whp and was wondering what I would currently make with a tune and if I won't with this current setup what I will need. Also is it necessary for me to get a electronic or manual boost controller to up my boost for a tune? I read that the stock ecu can control boost fine and that a controller was not needed. Thanks, Braden

330 should be no problem. just make sure it has no boost leaks and everything is ready to roll and you should make over 330 with a good tuner onboard.

if you dont change the pill in the factory bcs it sucks from what i understand. i just use a hallman pro myself, but ebc's definitely have the advantages with all the fail safes in the new tephra rom's.

MY boost gauge reads the 20.3 psi stock I don't know if that means I'm all set on boost leaks. Also are my stock injectors fine? I was looking into getting a hallman boost controller with the hallman in car controller because of how inexpensive it is. How is your hallman? Do you recommend it. Also is it worth getting the hallman pro rx over the regular pro? Thanks, Braden.

i love hallman mbc's. mines in-car and i have it sticking out of the cigg lighter hole so its stealth.. just a idea for you maybe to copy. the pro rx if i remember correctly is more for those who want to have super precise accuracy by turning the knob and adjusting by as little as half pound incriments in boost, it has a ceramic ball... keep in mind its also not going to hold as much boost as the pro with the heavier ball tho. just get the pro you should be fine.

I'm shooting for around 450 whp, could I reach that goal with the following setup being tuned at 93 pump:

FP Red w/ ported housing
custom intercooler piping
custom intercooler w garrett core
18psi actuator
hallman manual boost controller
Tial BOV
Greddy Ti catback
helix downpipe
works hi flow cat
kelford 272 cams w/ gsc beehive springs
nvidia o2 housing
walboro 255 fuel pump
pte preciscion 1200 cc injectors
Buschur intake pipe w/ blitz filter
Exedy triple sr clutch w/ flywheel

hard to say. youll hit over 400whp easily though. depends on how good the tuner is most definitely.

We usually see 430's awhp on average with 93 and FP Reds and a few freaks did 450's

Had a goal last month to hit 400hp on a mustang dyno, I wasn't even close. I hit 343hp at 27psi on 93oct. Now added a 3.5 FMIC and replaced high flow cat with a test pipe. Going to CBRD this weekend for a tune. Any guesses what it should do on a mustang dyno? Running 93 octane again. Hopefully much better results.

Stock Block
84MM Ported FP Red
BR TBE no cat
BR MBC
BR Air Filter Kit w/FP Intake Pipe
BR 3.5" FMIC
Megan O2 housing
BR Ported Ex Mani, Intake Mani, TB
Walbro 255
PTE 1000CC injectors
HKS 272i/272e
Exedy Twin HD
ARP Headstuds

mustangs are stingy, that setup would do 430 in DLL and maybe a little more on a dynojet. mid to upper 300's most likely.

400 on a mustang are tough to get with fpred and pump gas. Even with larger fmic and testpipe, u should net around 350 on mustang.