evo 9 motor
evo 8 turbo
injen intake
3" fmic & licp
3" tbe
ported o2 housing
megan exhaust manifold

only 92 down here in az

tune by english racing on monday... really curious to see how it does.

ooo i want in on this...
2.0 mivec motor
manley crank
manley turbo tuff i beam rods
cp 9.1 piston
head port and polished
supertech valves, dual spring retainers
gsc s2 cams
stock 9 turbo
stock ecu
AMS FMIC and lower piper
upper pipe with TiAL QR
rc1000cc and walboro
greddy ti-c comp exhaust and DP
ported intake and exh manifold and 65mm TB
exedy twin

tune on 93 oct. and c16...

can anyone MAYBE guess my power...

MODS:
ETS V2 LICP
ETS intake
ETS UICP
Megan 02 housing
Megan 3" DP
Mil.Spec 100 cell cat
Spark Tech COP
HKS Carbon Ti exhaust
ACT HDSS/Streetlite Flywheel
Grimmspeed 3 port boost solenoid (rubber mounted because of all the clicking)
22.5psi spike, tapering to 20psi
93 octane

anyone?

I will look into the boost controler. I already have the Clutch Just replacing disc. Certain things i Left of my Bills already run up enough so I cut som of the things I can modify later IE Porting downpipe, manifolds and ignition. . When I ACT clutch goes I'll upgrade to the Exedy

i would say 300 - 320hp on mustang dyno

so you'd say about 360-370 on a dynojet?

thanks for the reply. I figured about that much, but because of a phantom knock issue, my car is tuned extra extra safe. not sure how much power i'm making yet because I haven't gotten any good logs yet with the new tune.

so a evo9 with, licp, uicp, tbe, o2 dump should make around 330?

evo 8 Stock block
3"TBE
3"intake
3.5" Fmic, uicp and Licp
BC 272 cams
Arp headstud
255 wally
Halman MBC
PTE 1000cc
tial bov
fp green 64mm
ported and polish intake manifold
ported and coated exhaust manifold
speed density
AEM EMS
will tune on e85@ 28psi

anyone know where im gonna be?

well... u have an evo 9 so that power at a very conservative tune (22-24psi), my friend evo 8 with full bolt-on with no cams @24psi on stock 8 turbo he made 310 at AMS mustang dyno

What do you guys think the top end of a GT 4088 TS

and Precession 1000cc injectors are on pump gas (93 octane) ???

How about 1000hp. Happy!!!!

Got pretty much no answer last time but let´s try again.

Going on dyno next month but got Catcams custom billet 292 / 11.65mm cams, any guestimates?

Is this with a stock, unported, throttle body? Incidentally, unless I am way out of touch, no one in the U.S. will be able to give you a worthwhile opinion with respect to Catcams grind....because no one, as far as I know, has ever used these camshafts in an Evo over there.

odd setup, 450awhp :D

Bump for opinions.

Zam nothing!

my mods:

3" Downpipe

3" Exhaust Catback system

Injen SP Cold Air Intake

Megan Racing Exhaust Manifold

Cosworth 272 Cams

Brian Crower Valve Springs & Retainers

Cometic Performance Head Gasket

ARP L19 Racing Headbolts

Flashed on 28psi

98 Octane gas


HP at the crank?

also what turbo and how big injectors would i need to go to 600hp crank?

your limiting factor on pump gas will be the 1000cc injectors, with a single walbro that's about 500awhp, with twin pumps more. The 4088 should do as much as 600awhp on pump if you have excellent accompanying mods

sorry we don't speak in crank hp here, it's power to the wheels that we're interested in.

I was wondering that. I've got a good setup (Fully built 2.4, CDI, Full Blown -8 supply, fuel rail, FPR, ect.)

But 1000cc can do as much as 600 whp (93 oct) and that’s all she wrote?


What’s your take on the 4088? The feedback I head was it's not as good as the more popular HTA GT35's and GT37's as they seem to produce around 50 more whp and spool sooner?

600whp and 1000cc injectors i dont know about all that you will be out of injector way before then.

Here's some data to give you an idea, keep in mind that the PTE brand injectors are rated at 100% duty cycle to get that 1000cc flow number. FIC rates their injectors at 80% duty cycle so they'll flow significantly more fuel(and they'll start/idle better but that's another discussion)

these numbers are from customers cars I've tuned and the power is similar to a dynojet.

PTE 1000 single walbro
e85 400awhp 80% IDC 12.0AFR
93 500awhp 100% IDC 11.5AFR
twin walbro
q16 700awhp 110% IDC 12.5AFR (Mellon Tuning EVO)

RC 1000 single walbro
91 518awhp 90% IDC 11.5AFR
twin walbro
91 570awhp 87% 11.5AFR

so I think you're PTE 1000cc with twin walbro equivalent fuel pressures is going to be shy of the 600awhp range (best guess)

personally I always thought of the 4088 as a turbo that didn't find a good home. In an open T3, it's laggy, in a TS T4 it's better but then you choke it up top horsepower wise unless you go to a huge scroll on the turbine side like a 1.0x. But if you do that, it's laggy again. There's a few guys that like it but thousands of others that prefer the T3 35 and 37R options.

Your 2.4 changes the game a bit and can help the 4088 shine in a TS with a large hotside. It may be possible to have the best of both worlds but it's a tricky one to know ahead of time. Also a 2.4 and 35R like a HTA86 might feel even better.

2.4 ftw mellon how is your evo coming along boss

indeed!

pulled the tilton clutch and the output shaft splines on the tranny were good but the teeth on the clutch were sheered off. I spoke to tilton and they seemed baffled so I'm sending it to them for repair $$$$

then how much in whp?

ok, I'm estimating 600bhp is like 500awhp and to do that on pump I recommend FIC 1050cc injectors and a single wablro fuel pump with a HTA35R turbo. It may be possible to get there with a FP Black or BBK-B as well and they are worlds cheaper but my customers typically run out of power at 430-450awhp with bolt on turbos like those due to the small hotside. The average for 35R's are 475-525 on the stock short block/head.

so hta35r with a t3 manifold would be your choice?

http://www.mellontuning.com/index.ph...roducts_id=469

that's a 3586 which is what I run currently 600awhp on 93 octane at 30psi 700awhp on e85 at 38psi. I previously had a 3582 which spooled quite a bit sooner and made the same 600awhp on 93 octant at 30psi. when I had a stock short block, stock head and mild cams it did 500awhp on 93 at 30psi and 550+awhp on c16 http://www.mellontuning.com/index.ph...roducts_id=470

you should make around 700hp depending on what gas u are running

Just want to get some opinions on this setup. I'll be installing the last of my parts and getting tuned sometime around the middle of February up at AMS. Street car DD. The goal is 400awhp.

BBK-Full @ 27psi
MAP o2 housing
BR intake w/perrin recirc tube
ETS FMIC and LICP
Crushed Evo 9 BOV
Walbro 255
FIC 1050cc
Turbo XS TBE
Stock ECU on 93 oct
GSC S2's with springs and retainers
ACT street disc


Thanks guys

I have bought most of the parts and it won't be more than a few months before I get everything put in and tuned.


The list:

• AEM electronic Boost controller
• ETS Intake
• ETS LICP
• Perrin 3.5" IC
• BR Ported Throttle Body
• BR Ported Intake Manifold w/ phenolic gasket
• BR Ported Exhaust Manifodl w/ AWD 2000* coating
• Megan O2 Housing
• AMS 3" Turbo-Back Exhaust with Mil.Spec High Flow Cat
• Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump
• AMS Fuel Rail
• FIC 1050CC Low Impedance Fuel Injectors
• Spoolinup COP
• GSC S2s w/ Kiggly Springs and ARP Headstuds
• Synapse Recirc Valve

It will still be on the stock turbo.

nice setup but I'm afraid that act clutch is going to lock you out at high rpm. I think it's got 400+awhp potential on 93. I believe AMS is rocking a mustang dyno instead of dynojet now so it will be stingy with the numbers.

another good combo, depending on octane it should do upper 300's on pump and 400+ on the good stuff.

Thanks. The clutch isn't bought yet, its the last piece I have to buy. I don't really need nor want a twin disc right now so what other clutch options do you think would work? I dont know how much life is truly left on the stock clutch disc right now. Its not slipping at all, but I want the security of something I know will hold the power.


Should also note that the car won't see the drag strip. Its strictly a street car and wont be shifted over 7K rpm. I've read the lockout was the full face street disc shifting over 7.5K rpm. I was planning on getting the 6 puck sprung hub disc.

Hey guys, I'm new to the EVO scene, but here's what I have and would like to know about what it will make. Thanks!

05 EVO MR
3" Megan DP
3" HKS exhaust

you're going to be into the 400tq area with a good tune so I would look into something like what Gary ran on is car with the FP Red which made 518awhp and 450tq. This clutch was very smooth and held the power like a champ. Fidanza 4.3 for the 5-speed tranny
We also have one for the 6-speed

no tune, no boost controller? stock being ~ 240, I'd guess 260-270 maybe.

What about the 3.2? How much of a difference is there between the 2 clutches?

it's still daily driver friendly but the engagement isn't as smooth. Maximum torque rating: 511ft. lbs instead of 599 on the 4.3. We carry both of these here http://www.mellontuning.com/index.ph...ndex&cPath=1_3

IX Drop in Wiseco HD1400 pistons and Manley turbo tuff rods, AMS balance shaft eliminator, S2 cams, AMS 850r turbo kit, BR double pumper, FIC 2150, AMS FMIC, locally ported head W/+1mm valves, GSC springs and retainers, stock IM and TB for now on E85. Looking for what power level this will be and if it appears i missed some important parts needed for this build. Will not be finished untill Mayish.

I ♥ bench racing threads. :)

Evo IX MR

Power mods:

Walbro 255HP
Injen intake w/ Fujita cone filter
Injen UICP
Nisei LICP
Invidia 3" TBE
Megan Racing o2 housing
OBX FMIC
Blitz SBC i-color EBC

Also has an Exedy Twin HD

I made 334/342 @ MAP with, Injen LICP, stock IC and stock o2 housing on 92 octane pump gas.


What kind of gains could I expect from the FMIC, o2 housing, and real LICP?

sorry, I don't have any data on that turbo

I'm not familiar with that fmic, is it a garret core or cheap core? if garret I would shoot for 350+ It usually requires cams to get into the 360+ but we've seen some freak IX' that will do that and more on stock cams. The weather is cool in the states and that will help.

The turbo is an oil cooled BB 6262.

It is just a cheap core, but it has nice cast endtanks, much like the Perrin piece.

the big variable is the head, could be great, could be worse than stock. Also how much boost are you going to run? 30psi maybe 600, 40psi maybe 700 if the head is good.

HOW MUCH SHOULD I MAKE WITH MY MODS, :p


BUILT 2.0 (STOCK HEAD, ONLY INTAKE AND EXHAUST PORTS ARE CLEANED UP)
DRIVEN INNOVATIONS SMALL PLENUM INTAKE MANIFOLD
MIL.SPEC 65MM TB
ETS UICP
ETS 3.5 FMIC
ETS LICP
BUSCHER 84MM HARD INTAKE PIPE
PERRIN FILTER
MAP PORTED EXHAUST MANIFOLD
SPARKTECH C.O.P. IGNITION
JMF INTERNAL DUMP O2 OUTLET
MEGAN 3" DP
RRE RALLYCAT
MAGNAFLOW FULL 3" CATBACK
AQUAMIST HSF-6
BC SPRINGS & RETAINERS,
GSC S2 CAMS
ARP HEADSTUDS
FP BLACK
BUSCHER DOUBLE PUMP
FIC 1680CC BlUEMAX HIGH IMPEDENCE INJECTORS
BUSCHER BILLET FUEL RAIL
TIAL QR BOV.

nice setup, the range for the black is so wild, 93 octane ~ 430awhp is what we usually see on a stock block car with stock heads and 500awhp on e85 with the same car. Do a built shorty/head and great supporing mods with e85 and it can go quite a bit higher into the 600's. Your setup I assume you're going to use pump gas and meth? I think it has 500+awhp potential depending on how much meth you're spraying.

Two 1.0 MM aquamist jets 50/50 mix :fire:

It's had a conservative 91 octane tune it hit 443 dynojet, waiting on a fully ported head till i unleash the meth, and a slightly more aggressive 91 octane tune for my second map.

500+ easy with the injection. get rid of the capslock though.

443 is strong for the 91, very good. Most of my customers with 50/50 meth mix aren't too impressed with the gains, the 100% meth guys are though.

I think the intake manifold helped with that, maybe the .20 over pistons helped also.... :lol: If I can get between 500-520 on a low reading MD with the mods and meth I'll be happy, since E-85 is about a year away in my area, two staions are gonna be breaking ground late this summer.

e85 is 1.5 hours away from me, Memphis is about 10 years behind other large cities.

1.5 hours away for you to fill up some barrels for e85. hmmm thats some true dedication to the sport right there. LOL they opened a station in front of the mall for me so like 10-15 minutes away for me. anything over 45mins im not bothering. I can see why you love you some pump gas numbers. same here

How much with my mild setup
Evo viii
Turbo xs fmic
Turbo xs uicp & loco
Turbo xs turbo back deleted cat
Walbro 255
K&n cone filter with maf adapter
Stock turbo
Still debating on cams prolly his 272 or gsc s1

Looking for hopefully around 320 ish

youll hit 320 very easily.. probably 360~ on 93oct.

if you have stock BOV you better change it.

Forgot that I have a ix bov but what cams will be better?

the GSC will give more gains over the HKS. The HKS will meet your goal easy tho.

nice, wish it were closer to me. I run 93 99.9% of the time for that reason.

350+ should attainable with cams especially, I would go with the S1 (stock springs) or S2 if you don't mind upgrading to the beehive springs.

How much power, 1/4 mile times?
 

Evo IX 19000 miles
stock clutch
3119lb with me in it

FP black ported/ 25psi wastegate
Kelford 272/272 cams (stock springs)
STM upper intercooler pipe
Ebay FMIC
Injen lower intercooler pipe
Tial non-rec blow off valve
STM 3" intake (Speed Density)
Megan Racing Tubular header
Titek 02 housing
3" downpipe w/cat delete
HKS carbon Ti catback exhaust
Precision 780cc injectors
Agency power Fuel rail
STM fuel pressure regulator
Walbro 255 pump
Spoolin up COP


Stance GTr coilovers, works emotions 18"

probably like 26psi to keep block happy, on 93 octane.

Power?
Times?

-Ben

~ 430awhp on 93 (dynojet)
hard to guess at e.t. due to driving/traction but it should mph ~ 117-120mph lifting to shift. The car is light but it has 18" wheels/street tires.

How much WHP with this set up:
 

I have a stock EVO IX MR. What would I make with this set up...

FP HTA Green Turbo
255 Fuel Pump
1000 cc injectors
Buschur TBE
ETS Intake (or AEM)
3 port solenoid
E85

I'm curious what I would make on 91 and e85. Thanks everyone!

single walbro? might pass 500 on e85 but it will need one of the newer style fuel pumps or a double pump.

91 probably low 400's high 300's. The 3 port should help a lot by maintaining a nice wgdc curve.

The HTA green is a nice turbo.. my numbers above are based on a decent set of cams also.. get yourself some GSC S1 for the green. if not deduct 30whp or so off each number.

what size is the ebay fmic? what is the core width and what are the inlets in diameter?

If i was tuning that car my personal goal as a tuner would be anything over 460.
Add another 15whp for the SD mod.. injectors will be a bottleneck possibly.

Good luck with the car.. i recommend going with a more proven core tho and some 1000cc pte or similar to be safe.

I inquired about getting a tune from you actually.

What FMIC would you go with?

Stock block, head
PTE JB 6262 .82A/R
Fullrace manifold
44mm WG
full bolt-on
BC272 cams
valve spring and retainer
ARP headstud
1000cc
ported and polished intake manifold
Exedy triple disc
what power should i expect 28-30psi on pump? e85?
on what dyno?

ets 3.5"

with those cams? maybe 650 at best? not sure..
make sure you have a huge FMIC also and atleast something
like a magnus v5 for intake manifold.

oh yea... i got Perrin 3.5" Front mount,

:eek:

not good! I went from being stuck to 560whp to 660whp by switching the FMIC from perrin to buschur race 3.8"

The perrin inlets are only 1.8" .. get rid of it asap. Its good for little turbos, but sucks once you need to actually flow serious air.

:(

can i do ETS 3.5 "?

ya ETS 3.5 or 4.0 will work.. id get the 4.0

you can ask ETS to use a garrett 3.8" core also if you want.

i will do that for sure... thanks for the suggestion!!{thumbup}

no problem.. or CBRD 3.8" also uses garrett core and is good for 1000whp

Shooting for 300+ WHP on a Mustang Dyno(or 330+WHP on a Dynojet) on 91 octane :( :

Grimmspeed 3-port boost controller
ETS V2 LICP
ETS 3.5" intercooler
Perrin complete intake
Tanabe Medalion Touring catback exhaust
Cobb hi-flow cat
Cobb 3" downpipe
Megan o2 housing coated
Walbro 255 fuel pump
880cc fuel injectors

I was going with the single, but I'll get the double if I need to. I want to maintain the stock valve train right now. I heard those S1 cams don't do well up top. Will my car pull hard to the stock redline with those cams? I heard they are mostly good for midrange. I like the feeling of a car that hits hard and keeps pulling to redline. If not the S1s what other cams would be good for what I want?

So hoping you guys can give me a guess on where I might be at with my current mods. I bought my Evo 9 with the FP Red, Injen piping, injectors and JUN BL exhaust no cat. Car is in the shop now getting an ETS 3.5 Intercooler and replacing my Injen LICP with the ETS model, I was in an accident and was able to get the intercooler and ETS lower pipe like I wanted. As soon as I get the car from the body shop I'm taking it to be re-tuned.

Ok so where do you guys think I would be HP wise with a FP Red, BlueMax 1250's, Walbro 255, Injen UICP, ETS LICP, ETS 3.5 Intercooler, JUN BL 3 inch Turbo back NO CAT and Hallman boost controller. The car has had a previous tune, otherwise it wouldn't be running on the fuel setup it has. It is running 27lbs of boost on 93. The car does not have cams at the moment. But its on the road map. Using 93 fuel and located in SC.

I obviously know it cant be guessed exactly but I'm sure somebody can give me a rough number from experience.

Thanks for the help in advance.

evo 9? if the tuner knows what hes doing maybe 410-420whp. evo 9 cams are not to bad stock.

s2 are ok also.

Sorry, yeah Evo 9. Oh that's great news. I am looking at the Cosworth Cams

Ok well I was wondering if someone could tell me what I would be around hp wise :) its a 03 evo viii,
Going to have buschur hta 3586r turbo kit with the cast manifold, dump tube, megan 3 inch downpipe, pte 1200cc injectors, gsc beehive springs, injen uicp and licp and injen intake with aem cone filter, synapse bov, 3 inch test pipe, arp head studs, the whole exhaust is 3 inch, kelford 272 cams, hallman mbc, walbro 255 pump, fabworks 4.5 inch fmic, 91 oct, and a really good tune :)

93 octane customers on stock head stock block usually see 500awhp area, with a built head and badass cams it can get up to 600awhp. The 91 octane will hold you up some.

So I have an 04 VIII SSL I put down 296hp/306tq on VD with a CF=1 at an elevation 5200ft+.

My mods are:
Fuel Pump
head studs
ported exhaust mani
Cone filter
3" tbe w/ test pipe
LICP
ebay IC
Metal DV
Hallman MBC ~27

I rebuilt my block and added a ported 10.5 hotside, ported stock O2 housing, GSC S2 cams. I want to see how far I can get with the 8 turbo and looking for low 12's at 5200ft+ up. How much do should I gain from the ported bigger hotside, O2 housing, and cams?

what fuel? if your old numbers were 27psi as well then id say around 360-370.. either way it will be a very noticeable difference.

E85. Uncorrected 360 up at a mile high? Seems kinda high?

e85....... your old numbers were 300 flat about.. the cams should give another 30whp.. the hotside more airflow.....

didnt notice the 5200ft elevation.. but still should be good power.. i would definitely say its gonna be over 340 for sure.. whether it hits 360 who knows. e85 is definitely the fuel to do it on tho. the bigger hotside will make a big difference also. i think you might be surprised.

Awesome, sounds like the cams will prob be the best mod besides switchin to E85. I wanted to get the most out of the 8 turbo so getting rid of the 9.8hotside was a must. Thanks!

what is the easiest way to make 500whp on an rp red..

^ e85

Evo VIII
Injen ic piping upper and lower
Injen intake
Perrin FMIC
Perrin TBE
Perrin MBC
Perrin filter
Evo 9 BOV

Its on 23 psi right now. I wanna upgrade my turbo. I really want about 450 to 500. Lmk what you guys think. Thanks.

Tim - Tim

you really need cams for an evo.. its the best bang for buck just about. if you want 450-500 and stock frame get an fp black.

when you guys list your mods list your location and fuel being used.. we cant guess that kind of stuff without knowing fuel quality.

Good to go,
Im stationed on Camp Pendlton right by oceanside. Im currently on pump gas premium. But there is a E85 station down the street from me. Still debating on switching over. Is there anything smaller then the fp black or a few hundred cheaper possibly?

for 500 not really.. a red will do it also, but the turbo will be worked harder to get there vs a black.. e85 will make it easy just make sure you have the fuel delivery for it.. big injectors and double pumper. {thumbup}

yea i was thinking FIC 1250 injectors. A double pumper would that be because of having a bigger turbo and on e85? because i was just gonna go with a 255. I also had just talked to a friend of mine and he said he had a Precision t3 50 trim turbo that came off a honda b series. any idea if it would work with the evo or if i would even see much of a power difference with it being only a 50 trim? Thanks

i would get the 1450cc. the double pumper because of e85 yes. 30% more fuel required.

id never buy a used fuel pump..

id go with the fp black but you can research.. im sure theres lots of old school options.

Hmmm makes me wonder. What do you think i could get with my current set up. On e85, 10.5 hotside, GSC s1 or s2 cams, 1250 injectors, and double fuel pumper?

like 400.

400 = no fun for me. I gotta talk to the wifey about a new turbo lol. Thanks for the advice and help. {thumbup}

trust w/3"downpipe
cosworth 272 cams
fic 1250 injectors
walbro 255
91 pump gas

boost controller i hope? id have to guess around 360~whp maybe.