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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 04:12 PM
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The "wrecking ball" build

This build is long overdue as the car is getting to the point where I am writing a catch up story before I update on where I am at today. I call my car the wrecking ball because she tends to wreck **** and break hearts of v8 owners and guys on bikes. I acquired her March of this year and she is my third evo. I have not touched one in a few years but after getting situated with the family I decided it was time for a new project. The car had a pretty extensive list of mods when I bought it but I soon wanted more power out of the car. SO here is my build thread as the car goes through its metamorphosis from what it was to now what it will be.

Here is how the car looked the day I bought it. She was owned locally by a gentleman that had decided he wanted to move on to an NSX or Porsche 911. I was glad to take it off of his hands as it was very well maintained and had a solid performance part selection. Car put down 399whp on Pure Tuning's mustang dyno on pump gas.

AEM EMS
Kelford 272 camshafts
walbro 255, PTE 880 injectors
FP Green 73HTA, Gimmspeed EBC
Full 3 inch turbo back with aftermarket 02 housing
ETS 3.5 inch intercooler, ETS long route piping
Shep ultimate ratio trans, Exedy stage 1 clutch
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 04:22 PM
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I soon decided that E85 was the next step in the cars power. I removed the spoiler and then I purchased a set of high impedance 1300cc injectors and a Walbro 415 pump. I upgraded the exhaust manifold to an ETS tubular and went short route on the intercooler piping and I also installed an exedy twin disk my buddy had laying around. I bought a used JMF small mattery tray and fabbed my own small battery kit using a Battery wholsale battery special to motorcycles that has 3x cold cranking ams and a 2 year warranty. I talked to Tom at TSCOMP and we did some work on tuning the car. I gradually turned the boost up until I decided **** it.... I want to go all out. The turbo was at 100 percent waste gate duty cycle and was spiking to 38 psi and dropping to about 35 by redline. I was happy, VERY happy actually. THEN it happened, I was cruising down a main road here in town and went to pass a car gradually, I was at about 16 psi and half throttle holding when I heard a loud snap and the noise no one wants to hear, the screech of the compressor wheel hitting the housing.

I picked up a replacement stock turbo at that time and was deciding on the path I wanted to take with the car. I could build it or leave it alone, I could rebuild the turbo or change the setup completely. Well, me being me I decided to take the better route and build the car into what I wanted while it was down.

Here is how it looked at that time. I know my grass was extremely long in one of the pics
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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I bought a forward facing kit off of a member here that was selling cheap and decided that the holset wasnt the turbo I wanted to use. I decided to go the PTE route with the 6262 on the car. Turbo is t3 .82 AR with a vibrant 3" vband flange welded on since the PTE flange is an odd size.

I bought a set of ID2000 from one of the shops here due to the knowledge that they are going to be needed with another pump in the tank. Ill build my own double pumper soon with a how to as to what I am going to do.

I also bought a JDM rear from Bad Evo and gave him my taillights to service.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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I decided that the motor I wanted to build was not a 2.0 or 2.0 long rod setup but I decided on a 2.1 destroker. One of Tom's buddies (named Nick) has an FP Black car that has some results on here that were just nasty. Well after some consultation with him I realized that the 2.1 was the right choice for power, reliability, and longevity especially with the goal I now had decided to pursue.... I decided I wanted to go after a 9 second pass. I want to build a car that I can drive to and from the track like BadEvo but I wanted to build something a little different than he has instead of just cookie cutting off of his car.

I purchased a 2.4 donor short block for 130 bucks from a local junkyard to start with.
I sourced down a stock crank for 100 bucks on ebay and started looking for the rods I want. I found the rods with a company called PAR engineering (maybe youve heard of them?? couch "dogbox" cough) I then found a set of pistons GSC had laying around that were a custom setup that fit my build perfectly. (2.4 stroker pistons and ultra high compression.... win win)

After a very extensive search for a local engine builder I meshed well with I found a company called Besnik Engine Design. I called him and discussed my build specs and what i want to do with the car and the environment its going to be in. It was obvious from day one he was as excited as i was which means a lot. Here is my pile of parts I sent to him. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Besni...68292376579095 Check him out if you are looking for a great builder.
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 10:56 PM
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Whats the link to PAR engineering evo rods? Cant find them on the website.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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it sounds like you are heading in the right direction, the 2.1 can rev the highest if im not mistaken but my only concern has been headgasket sealing issues with the 2.4blocks because of the increased bore size...
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 04:48 PM
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great build. i am interested in how it turns out


Originally Posted by mitsubeastlee
it sounds like you are heading in the right direction, the 2.1 can rev the highest if im not mistaken but my only concern has been headgasket sealing issues with the 2.4blocks because of the increased bore size...
maybe he should use L19 OR the 625 studs? you can get more clamping force from them. i wonder if these 2.1 guys can dill out the stud hole to 1/2 inch and use a 1/2 head stud???? the 2.1 HG is hit or miss. good luck. i hope it all works out.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsubeastlee
it sounds like you are heading in the right direction, the 2.1 can rev the highest if im not mistaken but my only concern has been headgasket sealing issues with the 2.4blocks because of the increased bore size...
Based my research which has been pretty extensive since I decided to go this route ive found a few things out. First is that some or should I say most of the headgasket issues come from machine shops not putting the proper finish required on the mating surfaces. Secondly is user install issues, some headgaskets require a heat cycle or two then a retorque, it seems most individuals arent doing this.in an effort to hurry and get their motors together. I am in no rush which was addressed with the owner of BESNIK. We are taking our time and making sure not a single corner is cut.
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Old Nov 5, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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An update I received today is that we are meeting with a local camshaft manufacturer and will be designing some custom camshafts for the community especially the 2.1 destroker guys as this motor setup can benefit from a little different setup then the standard 2.0 or stroker motor.

The block, crank, and rods are being sent to get an oil shed coating installed and a few tricks are being used to keep the oil in the pan and also returning faster.

The owner of besnik is named pashko and hes an engineer for Bosch. Does some pretty intense stuff for them. Hes a brilliant guy that has some bad *** ideas in the works that are going 5o push the limits of some things our community has seen.
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 09:11 PM
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 09:12 PM
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E85 is the way to go
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Old Nov 15, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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How much would it cost to have e 85 set up?
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 06:00 AM
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The forward facing turbo is real nice. Nice build and keep up the good work.
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Old Nov 16, 2013 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
great build. i am interested in how it turns out




maybe he should use L19 OR the 625 studs? you can get more clamping force from them. i wonder if these 2.1 guys can dill out the stud hole to 1/2 inch and use a 1/2 head stud???? the 2.1 HG is hit or miss. good luck. i hope it all works out.

Definitely use Map H11's (revised arp L19's if im not mistaken) or even better the newer arp 625's! I think extra clamping force is always a good thing.

I would agree mating surface is very important to a good seal, im sure user error plays a big key morover, but I wonder if the smaller bore has more mating area so its likely more forgiving in this department, either way you will take the proper measures.
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