Lancer Sportback (Cedia Wagon) to Evo Wagon (ct9w)
Sep 16, 2017, 08:26 AM
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You likely could use the complete Outlander rear floorpan. If you're going to go through the trouble though I would recommend just using a complete Evo 5-9 rear floor pan. The Evo suspension is designed for motorsports and will yield a better handling car with much more aftermarket support for stuff like swaybars and bushings. 
Sep 17, 2017, 09:38 AM
#107
It depends what you want to build, if you just want an awd lancer wagon than the outlander rear is pretty good. I have been working on an outlander to airtrek conversion this summer and I learned a few things. I learned that the outlander is an airtrek with a na motor. In Japan the airtrek has a turbo 4g63 and awd system. The airtrek and outlander share the same automatic transmission. In Japan and Australia oem airtrek transmissions are known to have tough gears and handle up to 400hp. This transmission is a 4spd version of the 5spd transmission used in the evolution 7 GTA. So an outlander drivetrain can handle a turbo 4g63 without any problems. Next I also found a ton of after market support for airtrek suspensions. You can get enough chassis braces to add an xtra 100 pounds to your car. Spoon also makes a full set of solid collars for airtreks. I found all kinds of anti roll bars and adjustable suspension arms for the airtrek. Outlander and airtrek chassis and suspension are identical so fitting the outlander floor pan on a lancer is a very good option.
One more thing I discovered is that the Evo gta ecu has the exact pin outs as the outlander ecu.
One more thing I discovered is that the Evo gta ecu has the exact pin outs as the outlander ecu.
Sep 17, 2017, 09:47 AM
#108
That's Chris.
Yeah, he has the 5speed, evo floorpan, and evo front done. Now he's working on getting the rear wide body done. It was his stupid *** evo III that got me into buying a lancer. I did a photoshoot for him and was hooked lol.
I hope OP is still working on his car.
Yeah, he has the 5speed, evo floorpan, and evo front done. Now he's working on getting the rear wide body done. It was his stupid *** evo III that got me into buying a lancer. I did a photoshoot for him and was hooked lol.
I hope OP is still working on his car.
Evo wagon and Evo III? Sounds like me and him think alike.
Dec 12, 2017, 12:24 PM
#112
Please see below pin-outs and compare
GTA dont have rear O2 and Fan Controller
USDM 2003 Outlander dont have ACD
Other than that the rest of the pinouts are pretty much the same
All of the transmission pin outs are the same except outlander does not have a pinout for "reduction Solenoid" (pin 119)
I wonder if the GTA ecu can control an outlander transmission.
Both transmissions are INVECS-II but GTA is a 5spd and 2003 Outlander is a 4spd
GTA PINOUTS
2003 OUTLANDER PINOUTS
So far I only did a DOHC swap on my outlander, if I find a GTA ecu I will plug it in and see what it does.
Last edited by apoopoo999; Dec 12, 2017 at 02:50 PM.
Jan 9, 2018, 03:50 PM
#113
So a front wheel bearing has gone bad on my sister and brother-in-laws Ralliart wagon. I managed to convince them to buy Evo 8 steering knuckles since they use a bolt-in wheel bearing design. Makes the job much simpler for me since I don't have to deal with those awful press-in bearings and seals and it's a good gateway mod for my brother-in-law to start tinkering on the car! Looks like the modding is about to begin! 
They still have stock Ralliart 16in wheels, but luckily I happen to have a set of Evo 4 twin pot calipers and rotors on hand to swap on and the stock 16's clear perfectly. (Info for all you guys who like modding in stages like me!)
They still have stock Ralliart 16in wheels, but luckily I happen to have a set of Evo 4 twin pot calipers and rotors on hand to swap on and the stock 16's clear perfectly. (Info for all you guys who like modding in stages like me!)
Jan 10, 2018, 11:24 AM
#117
Hmm, well if that's the case then I wonder what knuckles MarkOJ1011 used to mount the Brembo calipers on his Ralliart. I guess if it ends up not working we can swap the Evo wheel bearings into a set of Evo 4 knuckles and I think that will work fine.
Jan 29, 2018, 06:47 PM
#118
Ok, so here's the skinny on using Evo 8 steering knuckles. Comparing the Evo 8 knuckles to the stock CS7W Ralliart knuckles dimensionally they are the same. My guess since the lower control arms bolt on that the extra track width is all in the wheel size and offset and nothing to do with the suspension bits. The Evo 8 knuckles bolt up just fine. HOWEVER, they can't be run with the 4G69 transmission because the axles are a different spline. If one were to go awd and use an Evo 8 transmission and axles it would all work just fine; but because the Ralliart axles use a different spline it's a no go. Oh well, I'm going to hang on to these for when I buy the car from them in a few years and I'll do a full conversion on it then.
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