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Old Oct 11, 2017 | 08:09 AM
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^I have the same pieces on my trans and xcase granted no trans cooler or pump like it appears he went with but the install was a breeze. In both cases unlolt the old plate and bolt on the new ones. Takes 5 minutes at most.
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Old Oct 12, 2017 | 09:29 PM
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Thanks for the response heel2toe you are 100% correct.

Sad news to report. I was getting the car ready to hit the dyno last week and upon changing the oil I noticed a lot of metallic and some metal shavings in the oil. I am still trying to determine the cause. I was pushing to run ButtonWillow in November but due to time and money that will not be happening (running my little miata in street class though). I will tear the motor down this winter and build a 2.2 or 2.3. Im pretty gutted as I have been busting my *** to finish up the car.


Side note I got all the fenders painted and she is looking awesome!


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Old Oct 13, 2017 | 06:52 AM
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Voltex or Fotex?
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Old Oct 13, 2017 | 08:56 AM
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Voltex or Fotex?
Ive seen his car in person, it’s legit Voltex.
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Old Oct 13, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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Definitely go with a 94mm crank. 100mm and track abuse doesn't mix.
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Old Oct 14, 2017 | 09:50 AM
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Ugh sorry to hear that. Seems hard to keep these engines together when running on a road course unless its OE short block. And you have a dry sump!

Concerns me as I have a new 2.0 build coming together.
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 12:25 PM
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Just read all 48 pages, damn that took a while, but well worth it. Was really looking forward to your trans temp testing.

Sorry to hear about the bad news, but I'll say if I were in your shoes I'd be happy how long the engine lasted with how hard of a life it's lived. And considering that it wasn't a catastrophic failure, most of the major components can be reused if desired.
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Old Oct 15, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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The RS motors guys are doing some work on a crankshaft solution that doesn't break. (Not that it's your issue, just something to check into on the new build).
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Definitely go with a 94mm crank. 100mm and track abuse doesn't mix.
Yeah I've been leaning towards a 94mm the more I look into it.


Originally Posted by V.8MR
Ugh sorry to hear that. Seems hard to keep these engines together when running on a road course unless its OE short block. And you have a dry sump!

Concerns me as I have a new 2.0 build coming together.
I definitely abused the hell out of. I wouldn't sweat it man. I still have yet to figure actual cause.

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Just read all 48 pages, damn that took a while, but well worth it. Was really looking forward to your trans temp testing.

Sorry to hear about the bad news, but I'll say if I were in your shoes I'd be happy how long the engine lasted with how hard of a life it's lived. And considering that it wasn't a catastrophic failure, most of the major components can be reused if desired.
Thanks man! I am going to add a temp sensor to read tranny temps for sure, I will keep everyone posted. I am very glad I caught it before It took a major **** thats for sure.

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The RS motors guys are doing some work on a crankshaft solution that doesn't break. (Not that it's your issue, just something to check into on the new build).
After this I started looking into Manley cranks as I have always ran their products but it looks like they are junk (Ive been out of the game for awhile)


Anyone know anything about Magnus stroker kits?

http://magnusmotorsports.com/product...t-stroker-kit/

Can you use 156mm rods on a 2.2? Thats what I currently have?

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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 07:28 AM
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You can't use the 156mm rods with a 94mm crank in the 4g63 block, the compression height of the piston gets too short. Need to use a 153mm rod. English racing can set you up with a rotating assembly. They have had good luck with the Eagle forged cranks, and K1 billets. They use Carillo rods and Wiseco custom pistons to their specs.
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Old Oct 16, 2017 | 02:28 PM
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We had to the best luck with long term high RPM/power use with the 2.2l setup at English Racing. I would definitely recommend this option if you are going to invest in another engine.

Zack
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Old Oct 17, 2017 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by V.8MR
Ugh sorry to hear that. Seems hard to keep these engines together when running on a road course unless its OE short block. And you have a dry sump!

Concerns me as I have a new 2.0 build coming together.
I think people push built engines harder, so perhaps not an apples to apples comparison. From reading posts on here, it seems that anything much past 400whp, OEM or built, is not a good choice for longevity unless you stick with short sessions and/or run E85.
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Old Oct 17, 2017 | 09:21 AM
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Should definitely be running E85 or race fuel if you plane to make 400+ for track use. My car has done well at 430ish for the last 4 track days. Oil and water temps kept in check with upgraded cooling likely helps a lot.
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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 09:31 AM
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It is me again. Welp not a lot has happened since last post but some progress has taken place. Buttonwillow GTA Super Lap Battle was an absolute blast. I definitely had the least HP out of all 80+ cars maybe 100hp to the wheels haha (wasn't the slowest either). It was a great opportunity for me to run laps and learn the track as I have never been there. When I take the Evo back I feel confident to rip some fast laps right away.


Finally got the energy to drop the motor in the Evo this week and start tear down. Looks like number 4 bearing was starting to go and source of the metal. Piston 3 had some weird wear on the 2nd ring.

I am still trying to figure out what path I wanna go with rebuild...... Still leaning towards a 2.2. As like every build the list keeps growing. I wanna send the transfer case out for a refresh, rebuild clutch, new front subframe and so on and so on.








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Old Jan 13, 2018 | 11:20 AM
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Man I'm jealous of your workspace haha. That's some pretty bad bearing wear. Did 1-3 show any signs of wear? How does the crank look?

I'm also pretty curious about your trans cooler setup. Do you have a trans temp gauge?
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