this place is out of control...
Originally Posted by absinthe
Im inclinded to agree with GT40, and as I said last time when we had this issue ban anyone selling anything on the site from posting anything but informative responses about their products, what they have in stock and events relating to themselves.
Clearly that leaves them in a rather exposed position for the few customers who will undoubtedly be pissed about something, so Instead of 48 threads about how one guy got hosed by one tuner people should be forced to use the seller rating system, if you have to lodge your complaint there; this will eliminate people trashing a vendor 86 times in different threads and then pissing off the tuners lackies who will come to defend them and flame, this will stop the propigation of these threads .
Clearly that leaves them in a rather exposed position for the few customers who will undoubtedly be pissed about something, so Instead of 48 threads about how one guy got hosed by one tuner people should be forced to use the seller rating system, if you have to lodge your complaint there; this will eliminate people trashing a vendor 86 times in different threads and then pissing off the tuners lackies who will come to defend them and flame, this will stop the propigation of these threads .
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Yeah, socalevo is the place to be 
There are more people browsing our vendor forum at any given time. Including you! 
shiv
There are more people browsing our vendor forum at any given time. Including you! shiv
I'll put my $.02 in since I've been on this forum for quite a while. My post number might not be very high, but I add the information I know, and have had a lot of success getting the information I need. I rarely browse outside of the US Lancer tech forums and for sale forums, so I usually can stay away from the flaming and bickering.
This forum is great compared to the regular honda, supra, and nissan forums I belong to because there are a choice number of members who know their stuff. It also helps that they cruise the forum regularaly and are happy to give out information to those in need.
I'm thankful that this forum is here, because I wouldn't know very much about my car if it didn't exist.
This forum is great compared to the regular honda, supra, and nissan forums I belong to because there are a choice number of members who know their stuff. It also helps that they cruise the forum regularaly and are happy to give out information to those in need.
I'm thankful that this forum is here, because I wouldn't know very much about my car if it didn't exist.
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from this page: http://www.vishnutuning.com/dynos_dont_lie.htm
From the Temperature section.
"One trick that is used by more than a few tuners is strategic placement of the dynamometer's air temperature sensor (which is used for correction factor calculation). When need for lower-than-normal dyno result arises, it's easy to place the air temperature sensor in a slightly colder environment (out of the engine bay, in a cool shadow, on some insulation, etc.). Similarly, when a higher-than-normal result is needed, all one has to do is to place the sensor in a hot environment (near the exhaust header, in a stagnant pocket of air, in direct sunlight, etc.). Complicating the matters further is that, yes, you guess it, not all cars respond to temperature changes the same way."
From the Temperature section.
"One trick that is used by more than a few tuners is strategic placement of the dynamometer's air temperature sensor (which is used for correction factor calculation). When need for lower-than-normal dyno result arises, it's easy to place the air temperature sensor in a slightly colder environment (out of the engine bay, in a cool shadow, on some insulation, etc.). Similarly, when a higher-than-normal result is needed, all one has to do is to place the sensor in a hot environment (near the exhaust header, in a stagnant pocket of air, in direct sunlight, etc.). Complicating the matters further is that, yes, you guess it, not all cars respond to temperature changes the same way."
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[QUOTE=daily bread]from this page: http://www.vishnutuning.com/dynos_dont_lie.htm
From the Temperature section.
"One trick that is used by more than a few tuners is strategic placement of the dynamometer's air temperature sensor (which is used for correction factor calculation). When need for lower-than-normal dyno result arises, it's easy to place the air temperature sensor in a slightly colder environment (out of the engine bay, in a cool shadow, on some insulation, etc.). Similarly, when a higher-than-normal result is needed, all one has to do is to place the sensor in a hot environment (near the exhaust header, in a stagnant pocket of air, in direct sunlight, etc.). Complicating the matters further is that, yes, you guess it, not all cars respond to temperature changes the same way.
/QUOTE]
Ok Mr. Bread, you know quite well about some people calling Shiv "out" about manipulating dyno readings the last time his car kicked everyone's butt. Hmmm, are you another misinformed "fan boy" ? and a new account to boot....lol!!
From the Temperature section.
"One trick that is used by more than a few tuners is strategic placement of the dynamometer's air temperature sensor (which is used for correction factor calculation). When need for lower-than-normal dyno result arises, it's easy to place the air temperature sensor in a slightly colder environment (out of the engine bay, in a cool shadow, on some insulation, etc.). Similarly, when a higher-than-normal result is needed, all one has to do is to place the sensor in a hot environment (near the exhaust header, in a stagnant pocket of air, in direct sunlight, etc.). Complicating the matters further is that, yes, you guess it, not all cars respond to temperature changes the same way.
/QUOTE]
Ok Mr. Bread, you know quite well about some people calling Shiv "out" about manipulating dyno readings the last time his car kicked everyone's butt. Hmmm, are you another misinformed "fan boy" ? and a new account to boot....lol!!
I personally think this is the best Evo site on the internet. I have installed every aftermarket part on my car because of the great information from EvoM. I can tell you that there is no other Evo site on the west coast or east coast that can match the knowledge and tech articles on EvoM. I have personally saved my self a ton of money by installing all my own parts. I think that a lot of members here deserve a huge thanks from all of us for providing such great knowledge and information. I think it would best to stop complaining and start contributing to the Evo community.
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[QUOTE=DrMerl]
please explain what im misinformed about?
Originally Posted by daily bread
from this page: http://www.vishnutuning.com/dynos_dont_lie.htm
From the Temperature section.
"One trick that is used by more than a few tuners is strategic placement of the dynamometer's air temperature sensor (which is used for correction factor calculation). When need for lower-than-normal dyno result arises, it's easy to place the air temperature sensor in a slightly colder environment (out of the engine bay, in a cool shadow, on some insulation, etc.). Similarly, when a higher-than-normal result is needed, all one has to do is to place the sensor in a hot environment (near the exhaust header, in a stagnant pocket of air, in direct sunlight, etc.). Complicating the matters further is that, yes, you guess it, not all cars respond to temperature changes the same way.
/QUOTE]
Ok Mr. Bread, you know quite well about some people calling Shiv "out" about manipulating dyno readings the last time his car kicked everyone's butt. Hmmm, are you another misinformed "fan boy" ? and a new account to boot....lol!!
From the Temperature section.
"One trick that is used by more than a few tuners is strategic placement of the dynamometer's air temperature sensor (which is used for correction factor calculation). When need for lower-than-normal dyno result arises, it's easy to place the air temperature sensor in a slightly colder environment (out of the engine bay, in a cool shadow, on some insulation, etc.). Similarly, when a higher-than-normal result is needed, all one has to do is to place the sensor in a hot environment (near the exhaust header, in a stagnant pocket of air, in direct sunlight, etc.). Complicating the matters further is that, yes, you guess it, not all cars respond to temperature changes the same way.
/QUOTE]
Ok Mr. Bread, you know quite well about some people calling Shiv "out" about manipulating dyno readings the last time his car kicked everyone's butt. Hmmm, are you another misinformed "fan boy" ? and a new account to boot....lol!!
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Originally Posted by drmosh
Of course, more people like reading the Enquirer than reading a textbook... what's your point?
I don't care if anybody talks **** about my post count. There's a reason I rarely come on here.
Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
There are more people browsing our vendor forum at any given time. Including you!
shiv
shiv
Most car enthisiast sites are pretty intertwined now cause people share the same passion. The STi guys read the Evo boards...the evo guys read the subie boards, the RX-8 guys read the Evo boards....etc. And think about this, every one of them is probably rolling on the floor at the thought of challenging someone to a go kart race to settle differences.
That's why there are so many members in your section.You are comparing a site that is concentrated in an area you can drive across in about 3 hours to a huge national site that has been around 4 times longer than SoCalEvo. Come on, grow up....of course EvoM is going to be larger...
Last edited by Coolguy949; Sep 13, 2004 at 06:25 PM.
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Yeah, socalevo is the place to be There are more people browsing our vendor forum at any given time. Including you!
shiv
There are more people browsing our vendor forum at any given time. Including you! shiv
The simple fact of the matter is that EvoM has really gone down hill of late. I used to be on here all the time during slow periods of my work day. Now I check here maybe once a day and when I do I have to sift through the insults and tuner wars to find one nice tidbit of info. I really hope things get back on track. This site had and still has alot of potential.
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From: Danville/Blackhawk, California
Originally Posted by Cr0mster
Shiv, if you spent even half as much time on you business ethics and your conduct as you do on stroking your ego and insulting people you would be way ahead of the game.
shiv
Originally Posted by Cr0mster
Shiv, if you spent even half as much time on your business ethics and your conduct as you do on stroking your ego and insulting people you would be way ahead of the game.
I find good information on both sites. I'd agree with Cool Guy, socalevo is a regional site, this is a national site, both have a place and offer their members different services.
Originally Posted by Cr0mster
Shiv, if you spent even half as much time on you business ethics .