From my recollection Tom tried to stop all the flaming between Vishnu and the So Cal community. However,a trailbraking thread,a Vishnu track day thread,Ricardon wishing Shiv death publicly, XS Engineering fiasco etc. put an end to that and the Backdraft has exploded. Leave Shivladen alone So Cal boys. Mark all this internet conjecture as you suggest is not taking time away from driving your Evo as previously stated. Probably more like re-tuning your Evo because that is what it seems you are always doing. Glad I went with Osama Shivladen as I actually have a well tuned vehicle every day of the week.OUT!

 

Sorry gt40, but you guys make a mockery of yourselves at socalevo. You boys spread lies and trash talk me there like some obsessed and rejected stalker. I can't help that. Heck, I, nor any of my employees, can even respond. All I can do is suggest therapy

Seriously, you guys truly provide hours of amusement and a nice get-away from the real world which keeps us busy. We really do laugh about the way you guys manage to discount fact and empirical evidence in favor of emotionally charged angst and frustration. But the way you attack your own forum members and other vendors in the most unmoderate of ways leaves those with slightly higher ethical codes of conduct with a bad taste in their mouthes. I mean, come on, one of your mods publically which death upon someone just last month (me!). And when the post was deleted, everything was deemed to be back to being fine and dandy? Is this the way the site is run?

Not to mention the disingenuous "hacking" that has been conducted on socal where an unknown mod or admin purposefully edited my posts to completely change the intent of my messages (for the worse, of course). Why? I'm afraid to ask. But to even argue that socalevo is a moderate and fair enthusiast site is completely in odds with historical evidence. If you believe otherwise, I'd like to hear your argument.

Not to mention the lovely commercial site that norcal admin Jansolo set up on the internet which sold "Dynoflush" mugs/t-shirts/etc with a doctored picture of Al in ladies underwear. Jan even had the nerve to give a Dynoflush mug as a sign of good will. Jan, that gift was one of the reasons that I turned down the advertising contract you gave me. Is it really the responsibility of a site Admin to take it upon himself to promote such a thing? Especially in the name of financial profit?

Trust me, I've talked to both evom Mark/KK and Coolguy/Rob in the past and there is a world of difference when it comes to how they want to run a site. And the quality and success (or lack there of) of each site reflects their approach. Plain and simple. If you guys want to attribute success, commercial or otherwise, to the tragic brainwashing of hundreds/thousands of innocent, weak-minded people, go ahead and do it. But it sounds like sour grapes to the rest of us.

Regards,
shiv

 

This is supposed to be a feedback post and all you have done is hating:

Those are your posts in a thread that was a simple appeal to improve this place. You weren't mentioned even. Everything has to be about you I guess...

 

Hahahaha... Yeah.... Shiv is Mr. Ethical now. Where is XS Engineering located? The Mojave Desert???? lol. Nice try.

 

This is why I love this site...everyone is as immature as i am...the difference is that i admit it...everyone else thinks they know everything

 

everyone needs to just have a coke and a smile and shut the f_ck up

 

Hey, i love this site i think the moderaters do a great job. I've learned more from this community than any other forum i've been on. People get mad over little things here and there sure but overall i love this community. Yeah sure the moderators could tighten down a bit but i think they do the best they can and its not a bad job at all. This community is great don't let a few bad apples ruin the bunch...hehe i love that cliche'.

 

do you think this is about him ?? im just wondering thats all lol

 

A couple things to note concerning this.

1. Al was aware of the mugs etc and actually liked them. He said they made him laugh his *** off (apparently he has a sense of humor and does not mind laughing at himself). I recall you laughing out loud as well to the mug in question.

2. There was no profit involved. If you ever created a cafepress.com shop, you would know this. (Motive for profit destroyed!)

3. Only three people in the world knew about the site in question: You, myself and Al. (Motive for profit destroyed once again!)

Still wanna go karting?

 

So, as an admin, you took it upon yourself to degrade another tuner for free? Gee, that makes it all the better. You're quite charitable ?

Of course karting is still on. The ***** been in your court for a couple days now big guy.

Shiv

PS. You're getting good at lying Jan. How are you gonig to explain those lovely PMs of yours? Better start thinking of something good

 

He's learning from the best!!

 

That is really not much of a retort since it lacks content. I suppose vague responses like that should work on the status quo, but really - you should offer some details on why what I said specfically is untrue. Making sweeping statements like concerning me telling untruths without proof to back it up is very amateurish. It's not like I moved an air intake sensor probe and then tried to present my whp as fact. I'M NOT THAT STUPID!

 

LOL... Shiv, caught with your hand in the cookie jar again. Out of curiosity Shiv, have you ever been wrong? Just wondering...

 

Probably not..... in a world where you can edit your posts.

 

The funny thing is that this post is becoming "Is out of control"

Does anyone one feel me?

What we forget to realize is that the same bickering occurs on almost any forum. I have to say that EVOM has the most infromation of any forumn I have used with tunners that are found on every tunner magazine out there. The owners most know what they are doing.

EVOM has taught more about EVO than any forums I have visted.

Peace,

Snoop