Houston Tuning Session!!!
Originally Posted by masterevo
Right........ U think in one hour, Mark can tune the AEM EMS on my setup? Certification is great, but that doesnt mean everything. In case you dont noticed, alot of great tuners and mech guys are not certified. Tuners usually become a tuner well before they even bother go get their certification. I believe Mark is the same way.
I respect Mark alot and heard alot about turbotrix. If you look at the list of people going to have their cars tune that day, you notiecd that it's a alot of people! Im just going for what best for me and for my buddies.
Keep the hell out of my forum if u dont have anything to do with Houston. Aite? U dig turbotrix and I dig Al. I frankly dont care if turbotrix or Al tune my car, but 1 hour is NOT ENOUGH!!!!!! I have to spend 500+ and only get 1 hour of tuning? What kinda **** is that? The EMS requires alot more than just tuning it for WOT. I want daily driving tune more than anything.
I respect Mark alot and heard alot about turbotrix. If you look at the list of people going to have their cars tune that day, you notiecd that it's a alot of people! Im just going for what best for me and for my buddies.
Keep the hell out of my forum if u dont have anything to do with Houston. Aite? U dig turbotrix and I dig Al. I frankly dont care if turbotrix or Al tune my car, but 1 hour is NOT ENOUGH!!!!!! I have to spend 500+ and only get 1 hour of tuning? What kinda **** is that? The EMS requires alot more than just tuning it for WOT. I want daily driving tune more than anything.
Actually ,, yes i can. Tuning an ems system on an evo is easier then a flash. Jason from aem can dial in a 1000whp supra or any car for that matter in 4 pulls... If you know the aem and the car your using it on.. You have a great advantage. Jason asked me once .. which would you rather , a person who can tune your car in 4 pulls or a person that can tune your car in 50 pulls ? Which would you chose ...
Mark
Turbotrix
P.S. Just make sure, whoever tunes your car make sure they are certified. AEM only backs certain shops that they feel have the knowledge to tune their product. EMS tunes in houston are 300 i believe .. Sorry you guys couldnt make the drive, as i've told someone in dallas, i wont be back there until about feb.
Last edited by TurbotrixRacing; Nov 13, 2004 at 03:34 PM.
Originally Posted by masterevo
If my evo brothers have any kind of common sense, that's not a good deal!!!!!! I go for the best bang for my dollars... PEACE!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by mitsuorder; Nov 13, 2004 at 03:58 PM.
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Originally Posted by TurbotrixRacing
P.S. Just make sure, whoever tunes your car make sure they are certified. AEM only backs certain shops that they feel have the knowledge to tune their product. EMS tunes in houston are 300 i believe .. Sorry you guys couldnt make the drive, as i've told someone in dallas, i wont be back there until about feb.
I understand that you can dial in a car within 4 pulls or whatever, but that's on WOT tune. Do you guarantee a full tune? Part throttle, hot start, cold start, cold idle, and all the daily neccessity? This is not a track car only, so I can't afford to just have it tune for WOT. I need something more reliable than that.
There is no doubt in my mind that you can tune Mark. I respect you alot and this thread was not meant to bash you or turbotrix by any means. I just cant see how you can fully tune an evo on the AEM EMS within an hour or so.
Please be specific on what you mean by a full tune... THx....
Originally Posted by masterevo
300? So if u come to houston, u charge us 300?
I understand that you can dial in a car within 4 pulls or whatever, but that's on WOT tune. Do you guarantee a full tune? Part throttle, hot start, cold start, cold idle, and all the daily neccessity? This is not a track car only, so I can't afford to just have it tune for WOT. I need something more reliable than that.
There is no doubt in my mind that you can tune Mark. I respect you alot and this thread was not meant to bash you or turbotrix by any means. I just cant see how you can fully tune an evo on the AEM EMS within an hour or so.
Please be specific on what you mean by a full tune... THx....
I understand that you can dial in a car within 4 pulls or whatever, but that's on WOT tune. Do you guarantee a full tune? Part throttle, hot start, cold start, cold idle, and all the daily neccessity? This is not a track car only, so I can't afford to just have it tune for WOT. I need something more reliable than that.
There is no doubt in my mind that you can tune Mark. I respect you alot and this thread was not meant to bash you or turbotrix by any means. I just cant see how you can fully tune an evo on the AEM EMS within an hour or so.
Please be specific on what you mean by a full tune... THx....
Hey ..
I've ems tuned prob 200 evo's, i consider that alot. I have a calibration that will on one pull prob be dialed in on any evo you throw at me. I can no doubt tune one in an hr.. Like i said its easier then the flash. With the ems you can tune in real time. Im not on here telling you who to tune with, by all means chose whoever you think will do the best job. We have some of the hardest tunes in the northeast with temps dropping in the negatives. I can guarentee you good cold start ..LOL. I know your not bashing me or my company, as i've said you will choose whoever you think is going to do better for you. Its not out of the question of us to drive to dallas after our houston tune as it would only be one of us ..and 10 of you guys. I dont know how during the week will work for you guys, as i said i prob wont be able to return until feb.
mark
Turbotrix
P.S. Just so im clear, your car would get an already existing tune i have and then fine tuned from there. It is pointless and time consuming to work from a base calibration every time you tune a car. If i did start from " scratch " , then yes it would prob take me longer then an hr ..If someone took 3-4 hrs to tune your evo it would tell me that they dont know what they are doing .. IMHO
Last edited by TurbotrixRacing; Nov 13, 2004 at 05:03 PM.
Thanks for clarifying the situation with dignity and real facts, Mark. Although I won't be getting my car tuned by either gentlemen, I think both sides should not take stands based on opinions and missconceptions. I'm currently running an Apexi Power FC and can attest to the fact that when I add a new component to my car, the new tuning session does not start at the "base map". So 1 hour +/- seems more than adequete to get a complete WOT and street tune for anyones car.
Holy CRAP!!! I haven't logged on in a few days, and I find this???? WTF????
Now for that rant out of the way, here is my new one.
I for one, eventhough being a member of Team EVO-SPEED, am still going to DALLAS for the entire weekend. I am driving up on 12-09, and checking out of the hotel on 12-12. Now it is about 300 for the room, 500 for the tune, 120 in gas, and who knows for the food, beer, fun..... Probably around 1200 for the weekend, but lets look at what I get.
1. A tune by TT
2. Fun for my birthday (12-12, so have the cake and presents ready)
3. Meeting more fellow evo owners, which is almost as import as #1
I know masterevo, and he is a good guy, but come on Scott?? Why the resentfullness on the Dallas trip? I am good friends with SGP, could go there and get my tuning done for way less than the Dallas trip, or even Al's cost. But where is the fun in that. I know it seems exspensive, but it is an opportunity to learn so much. There are going to be other evo owners, each with there own knowledge, and a tuner like TT, with an evo in the 9's. So much to see, learn, and experience. I will still be going to Dallas, so please keep me on the list. If Al is going to come to H-town, I will go too, but only as a lurker.
TT will be doing what most tuners do, start with a base map, and go from there. If AL is going to give you 5 hours on a tune, you will most likely be starting from scratch. I haven't really been keeping track of Al's problems, but I am gung ho on TT tuning. I am starting to ramble, so....
Now for that rant out of the way, here is my new one.
I for one, eventhough being a member of Team EVO-SPEED, am still going to DALLAS for the entire weekend. I am driving up on 12-09, and checking out of the hotel on 12-12. Now it is about 300 for the room, 500 for the tune, 120 in gas, and who knows for the food, beer, fun..... Probably around 1200 for the weekend, but lets look at what I get.
1. A tune by TT
2. Fun for my birthday (12-12, so have the cake and presents ready)
3. Meeting more fellow evo owners, which is almost as import as #1
I know masterevo, and he is a good guy, but come on Scott?? Why the resentfullness on the Dallas trip? I am good friends with SGP, could go there and get my tuning done for way less than the Dallas trip, or even Al's cost. But where is the fun in that. I know it seems exspensive, but it is an opportunity to learn so much. There are going to be other evo owners, each with there own knowledge, and a tuner like TT, with an evo in the 9's. So much to see, learn, and experience. I will still be going to Dallas, so please keep me on the list. If Al is going to come to H-town, I will go too, but only as a lurker.
TT will be doing what most tuners do, start with a base map, and go from there. If AL is going to give you 5 hours on a tune, you will most likely be starting from scratch. I haven't really been keeping track of Al's problems, but I am gung ho on TT tuning. I am starting to ramble, so....
Oh and BTW, Mark at SGP said if anyone wants to do a dyno day, their down. If anyone is interested, shoot me a PM. If I get enough people, I will talk to Mark about setting one up, and prices. I can tell you that it would already start a little less than their usually prices.
Sorry for getting
. And scott, not tryn to thread jack you.
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Originally Posted by sgplancer
Holy CRAP!!! I haven't logged on in a few days, and I find this???? WTF????
Now for that rant out of the way, here is my new one.
I for one, eventhough being a member of Team EVO-SPEED, am still going to DALLAS for the entire weekend. I am driving up on 12-09, and checking out of the hotel on 12-12. Now it is about 300 for the room, 500 for the tune, 120 in gas, and who knows for the food, beer, fun..... Probably around 1200 for the weekend, but lets look at what I get.
1. A tune by TT
2. Fun for my birthday (12-12, so have the cake and presents ready)
3. Meeting more fellow evo owners, which is almost as import as #1
I know masterevo, and he is a good guy, but come on Scott?? Why the resentfullness on the Dallas trip? I am good friends with SGP, could go there and get my tuning done for way less than the Dallas trip, or even Al's cost. But where is the fun in that. I know it seems exspensive, but it is an opportunity to learn so much. There are going to be other evo owners, each with there own knowledge, and a tuner like TT, with an evo in the 9's. So much to see, learn, and experience. I will still be going to Dallas, so please keep me on the list. If Al is going to come to H-town, I will go too, but only as a lurker.
TT will be doing what most tuners do, start with a base map, and go from there. If AL is going to give you 5 hours on a tune, you will most likely be starting from scratch. I haven't really been keeping track of Al's problems, but I am gung ho on TT tuning. I am starting to ramble, so....
Now for that rant out of the way, here is my new one.
I for one, eventhough being a member of Team EVO-SPEED, am still going to DALLAS for the entire weekend. I am driving up on 12-09, and checking out of the hotel on 12-12. Now it is about 300 for the room, 500 for the tune, 120 in gas, and who knows for the food, beer, fun..... Probably around 1200 for the weekend, but lets look at what I get.
1. A tune by TT
2. Fun for my birthday (12-12, so have the cake and presents ready)
3. Meeting more fellow evo owners, which is almost as import as #1
I know masterevo, and he is a good guy, but come on Scott?? Why the resentfullness on the Dallas trip? I am good friends with SGP, could go there and get my tuning done for way less than the Dallas trip, or even Al's cost. But where is the fun in that. I know it seems exspensive, but it is an opportunity to learn so much. There are going to be other evo owners, each with there own knowledge, and a tuner like TT, with an evo in the 9's. So much to see, learn, and experience. I will still be going to Dallas, so please keep me on the list. If Al is going to come to H-town, I will go too, but only as a lurker.
TT will be doing what most tuners do, start with a base map, and go from there. If AL is going to give you 5 hours on a tune, you will most likely be starting from scratch. I haven't really been keeping track of Al's problems, but I am gung ho on TT tuning. I am starting to ramble, so....
Happy early b-day old guy 
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For each his own. I dont know turbotrix will be able to give a good tune to everyone there. Have fun and enjoy. Sorry for steering everybody up. Im staying in Houston and get my car tune one way or the other.
Mark, you said you can drive here? When? Weekday would not work for alot of us bc most of the evo owners here are either at work or in school. Anyways, I'm not trying to pull anybody out of the Turbotrix tuning day, so please proceed on.
Al has tuned several gt35R evo with the exact cams setup as mine, which I'm sure he has a base map for. 4-5 hours is what he's willing to spend tuning the car with an EMS for. That doesnt mean that it will take him that long. And many of you who run an EMS system in your car know for a fact that it takes multiple tuning session to get it running nearly stock like.
And Mark, do you guarantee that my evo will be running "nearly like stock" by the time u finish tuning my car?
Mark, you said you can drive here? When? Weekday would not work for alot of us bc most of the evo owners here are either at work or in school. Anyways, I'm not trying to pull anybody out of the Turbotrix tuning day, so please proceed on.
Al has tuned several gt35R evo with the exact cams setup as mine, which I'm sure he has a base map for. 4-5 hours is what he's willing to spend tuning the car with an EMS for. That doesnt mean that it will take him that long. And many of you who run an EMS system in your car know for a fact that it takes multiple tuning session to get it running nearly stock like.
And Mark, do you guarantee that my evo will be running "nearly like stock" by the time u finish tuning my car?
Masterevo, can you explain why you signed up for a TT tune if didn't think he could do the job in the first place. Weather it was 1 hour or 4, at one time you felt like he do the job with your current mods. Why the change of heart?