I would guarentee it ,, but it looks like im not tuning your car. Good luck.

Mark
turbotrix


P.S. why would it take more then one tuning session for it to run like stock ?? The only time someone would come back for a change would be if i setup their car in 70 degree weather and not its 10 degrees .. and the cold start needs tweaking. But as far as tuning ..it would be done and right in one sitting ..

 

Unfortunately, you wont be due to many conflicting aspects.... I wish you the greatest success at the tuning session on Dec. 11-12! There will alot of happy/fast evo in Texas!

P.S so you're saying that I need a retune everytime the weather change? How may retune do I need? This might be good info for people who are thinking about going to EMS system. Thx

 

Its nice to see people who share such great passion for these fine automobiles and enjoy spending time on the internet discussing them

I have no interest in participating in any tuner wars or in trying to take business away from any other tuners

As far as I know there was no discussion to hold any Houston tuning trip on the same day as the TT event and in fact I do not even have a date for a Houston trip at this time

I may come down to Houston next week, before Thanks giving or the week after of maybe next month - its up to the Houston guys

I do not feel the need to lower myself to the level to respond to some of the unkind attacks posted here by the same individuals

However - let me say this, EVOTEXAS, you got a base flash from me for $199. If you did not like it when you got it, you could have easily asked for a full refund and got flashed back to stock as is our policy. Although our fully custom tuned reflash does make more power and perform better through fine tuning and testing on the individual vehicle, the $199 base flash does in 99% of cases deliver the 20 whp gains which we guarantee. $199 for 20 whp is a fair value. For a $199 mail in flash my goals are a safe tune which will yield a smooth power band and a pleasant car and accomidate the owner's chosen modifications. I am frankly not comfortable pushing more power on through the mail or base tuning as I have seen too much car to car variance and too many issues with individual cars with improperly installed or mismatched parts to feel confident at seeking extreme power levels on a through the mail or base flash. While my through the mail tunes may not rise to extreme levels of performance which some feel are justified by its $199 price tag - we do however have several customers who have gone 11 seconds with the through the mail flash. The best thing about our $199 flash is that it gives many users the ability to have their evos running reliably and well with out having to travel for custom tuning and we have enjoyed a very good reliability and saftey record with our tunes. EVOTEXAS I am sorry that you were displeased with the results on your car. However, lets put this into perspective, your car did not blow up and your ecu was not damaged. You felt that you wanted more power and you elected to try another product which you found more to your liking. I am very happy for you. However, I feel your rethoric and venom are misplaced and disproportionate.


As for doing dyno pulls in 4 passes, that is the way I tune my race car becuase at 667 whp you dont want to break your parts on the dyno - you want to save the car for the track.

However - pump gas cars which are expected to run as daily transportation and which run on lower octane and less consistant fuel require more deliberate attention and meticulous care in their tuning and TESTING

TESTING is 90% of the time in tuning

I find that AEM tuning takes longer than reflash tuning for myself as there are much more parameters to optimize for a particular car with the AEM. Those who have used the interphase will realize just how much there is to access and adjust.

Base tunes are helpful as starting points - but they require a lot of adjustment to match a particular vehicle and intened use

The reason why it takes me on the average about 4 hours to road tune a AEM car is because I am NOT in a rush when I tune. It usually takes me a half hour to hook up my wideband and go over the base calibration seetings to confirm that all seetings are correct. Then I proceed to do about 10 - 15 minutes on the idle and part throttle driveability settings. The hard work is the full throttle pulls on the road to determine the knock threshold and dial in the ignition timing to provide a decent margin of safety. I have found that real life road driving at 80 - 100 mph places a different loading on the cars (than a dyno) and that setting the timing on the street with real life operating conditions is critical to providing a knock free tune. I find that you have to seek out hills where you can load the car in tall gears to get it heat soaked and test the detonation resistance (this is hard in some states Like Florida)!

I find that my customers who have spend many hard earned thousands on their prize possessions are not interested in seeing how fast I can tune thier ecus - rather indeed they want to participate in the tuning process and watch and learn as we slowly and carefully discover the proper balance of performnace and saftey margin. Also, my professional reputation is far too important to me and it is my personal responsibility to assure that each tune is as safe and reliable as possible. Without careful testing and data logging I can not have a sufficient assurance that the settings will not result in a unforseen result.

In most cases cars will have some boost adjustment or other issues (boost leak, spark plugs, leaking bov, etc etc ) that may require some attention during the tune.


I am interested in going anywhere, anytime to tune evos with AEM, flash or what ever means the owner requires. However, I am NOT interested in the vendor bashing and personal attacks which have become all to common on these forums.

Mark at TT is a decent guy and a guy who works hard to support his family and who has also accomplished a great deal with his Evo and as such his efforts should be respected and admired. I would ask that all Dyno Flash customers and supporters refrain from further participation in any attacks and arguments on this thread. Although it is regretable that others have chosen to chime in on this tread with insults and attacks - I do not feel that it is neccessary to respond in kind. I feel that these toxic and negative interactions are counterproductive and lower the experience on these forums for all members. This is America, people are free to do business with whom they want and these kind of interactions and discussions are misplaced. In a market place of ideas, inteligent customers can access the data and competing arguments and draw their own conclusions and make up their own minds.

My track record with my customer's saftey and reliability record over the past year with 900 flashes in the US and also my record with my car on the track speak for my skill and my product. I will not engage in attacks on other vendors or products.

Those who seek my services in Houston, feel free to contact me so we can discuss dates and arrangements

Thanks

 

Al, how many people do you think actually read through that? Man, your long winded!!

BTW, I did call you to problem solve and you convieniently skirted the problem like you always do and blamed it other things long enough to void my refund. You have customer service? Refund my 200 and I'll leave it all alone. I got my flash fixed by TT and didn't have to go through the hassle of having you flash it back to stock. Based on the results of your flash, I was worried you might flash a Subaru program onto it with all your tuning wisdom. You're a joke, dude.

And you say, oh it was just a base flash. Well, you were in my car and you made a couple tweaks. It was more than a base flash. And you know what else? My TT tune is also a mail in flash. I gained 50 AWHP with it. And guess what stands to reason. Their custom tune is also that much better than yours.

BTW, how long have you been certified by AEM?



edit: And if I might add one more thing, if you are so hands off in avoiding tuner wars, why are you PMing the people on the TT list and badmouthing TurboTrix? You have NO class and NO respect. Even if your product WAS leaps ahead of all others, I wouldn't recommend you based on your lack of ethics, poor business acumen, and general dishonest sneakiness. But that inferior combination of traits along with an underperforming product makes it hard for me to give you any type of positive feedback.

You have every opportunity for redemption and you give them all away. For someone who wants to be in this business, you sure don't understand it. You need repeat customers. The five that you have won't keep you in business for long, Al. There are not an infinite amount of customers in this Evolution game. Welcome to reality.

 

oh and AL, buffoon is spelled b-u-f-f-o-o-n, you spelled it b-u-f-f-o-n and that was incorrect.

just wanted to let you know the next time you send out PM's calling other tuners buffoons.

 

I don't think you will fine either myself or my supportive customers on the thread about the Turbo Tricks Dyno day making insults or other attacks. I think your actions in continuing to post these same grounless attacks over and over are getting old. I find it funny that someone who has acted the way you have in the past few weeks would talk about Class and respect. I think its out of place for you to be attacking the people who are seeking to organize a dyno day and making these kind of posts. I am sure you sould not apprecaite people comming onto youtr thread about the Turbo tricks dyno day and talking a bunch of trash talk - and believe me there are trash talkers about every tuner.

Rather than continue with idiotic debates with you on the subject, I prefer to let the track tested results of my products and dyno verified sheets speak for how it works. There are just about 10 guys running my flash going 11.99 or better. There are dozens of dyno sheets posted on my section of the forum showing how we tune and what kind of power is made, interested parties can look there. The most important issue is our continued reliability and saftey record which has been quite favorable.

Those who are interested in what our customers have to say go look at the "I just got Dyno Flashed Thread" in the Dyno Flash section and you will find hundrdeds of very satisfied customers.

While in business I strive to make every one as happy as possible, there comes a time when you realize that in certain cases you are not going to satisfy a particular customer. In this case, I think EVOTEXAS has clearly become a loyal supporter of Turbo Tricks and I am happy for him. However, his continued personal attacks against me and other tasteless comments are not warranted or appreciated.

EVOTEXAS - I suggest you go forth to enjoy your Evo with Turbo Tricks tuning in peace and allow those who wish to use my services to do so at their own free will. Consumers in the market place will make thier own decision on which products to purchase.

 

Blah blah blah. In this case? Hardly, Al. I am just the most vocal and you know it. If you would like, I could start an "against Dynoflash" list and you can see just how many people don't like you or your product. Don't try and make it sound like I'm the only one who sees through you.

Regarding consumers in the market place, again, welcome to the market place. You screw over one person, you screw over ten. It's called word of mouth. You screwed up, not me. This isn't a court room. It's the real world where people have morals and values and expect a certain level of service. Standards if you will. While you are still too arrogant to even form an apology much less a refund, I will continue to give my opinion on your services freely in this free market.

And as a final point, don't proclaim my TurboTrix loyalty as if you can recognize what loyalty actually is. While I do think that TurboTrix is a tuner who's work speak for themselves without "case studies" (which BTW prove nothing), I would recommend almost ANY tuner other than you.

So everyone, go get tuned by Vishnu, TurboTrix, AMS, Buschur, Works, etc etc etc, but whoever you do business with, just make sure they aren't full of sht.

Fair enough, Al?

 

Your choice of words alone shows where your mind is at.

So you are claiming that I "screwed you over" with my $199 reflash which I installed directly into your car and road tested. Meanwhile, the same "Fireball" series of flashes have perfromed extremely well on HUNDREDS of cars on the dyno and on the track. In your case, I noted an immediate gain in smoothness and increase in power when the flash was installed from when I drove the car without the flash, further the OBDII data I logged showed that the "Fireball" flash was working well. To REITERATE, if you were not satisfied you could have simply sent in the ecu for a full refund within 2 weeks.

NOW you are saying that becuase your Turbo Tricks flash has made more power on a dyno that somehow I "screwed" you in our initial transaction, I dont understand that.

To re-state the same thing again which I have stated many times, through the mail flashing is a compromise. Due to car to car variance and differntials it is impossible to SAFELY offer an aggressive through the mail reflash. This is why I offer a through the mail flash with the limited and CONSERVATIVE promise of 20 whp gains through very conservative increase and smoothing of ignition timing and a/f ratio adjustments. While we are capable to MUCH GREATER gains on the fully custom tuned Dyno Flash (which you did not elect to purchase - this despite the fact that I was there in your town) it does REQUIRE us to instal a wideband 02 sesnor and spend some time adjusting the settings to match the indivdual car.

When I started this business - most other tuners wre charging about $500 for a through the mail flash and some still do. I felt in my mind that that was too much money to charge for the limited power gains which I would feel SAFE to offer through the mail and therefore, I provided a greatly reduced price of $199 for the through the mail or base flash which in my opinion at $199 is a great value and has proven itself to be a great seller and there are hundreds of satisfied customers.

Those who seek more power gains are encouraged to get a fully custom tune where we can set the tune at a more agressive level without fear of serious problems.

As for our case studies which I have been posting when I have had the time, I have found that they have been very helpful to show potential customers WHAT they are buying when they get a custom tune and HOW we do what we do. It also shows what kind of results a customer can expect. ALL customers are free to request that their tune be a "case study" when they come for a custom tune and the same 100% satisfaction poilcy is in effect for those tunes as well. If they dont like the power gains which I feel I can safely aquire - then I just flash it back to stock and thety dont pay. (Its important to note that on custom tunes once the customer does his test drive and pays there is no refund, through the mail tunes have a 2 week refund period).

Finally, your actions, personal insults and attacks over the past few weeks have put me in a position that in your case I am totally unwilling to deal with you in any manner. I have decided not to lower myself to the level of making personal insults and attacks against you in retaliation. I do note that after posting some of the ill collored and offensive and abusive relarks which you have done in the past weeks you have a lot of nerve to talk about ethics, morality or any other principles of human conduct. Your crude and patently abusive personal attacks upon me have exposed yourself as a petty and nasty individual. The manner in which you conduct yourself is beneath any man with honor and self respect. Its both ironic and sad at the same time that a person who acts in the manner in which you do would talk about ethics and morality.

Usually - its not a coincidence when people who are attacking me are organizing dyno days for competing tuners and recieving discounted of free services. Some of my biggest critics enjoy these informal associations with other tuners. I have seen this pattern before and I have grown to realize that this type of senario is part of business on the internet.

The bottom line about my busines is that I work hard to do the best job that I can possibly do. I work exceedingly long and hard hours and I make sure that each job is done to the best of my ability. Every time I have taken a deposit to do a tune, I have shown up and did it. Each time and ecu shows up at my door, I flash it and get it back out the same day. I have almost 300 pay pal transactions without a charge back or problem. Some may not care for my style of tuning and may prefer other tuners. Some may also not like my personality fo care for me - everyone is free to make his / her own choice. However, when you say that I am "screwing people over" this I find personally offensive and its totally flase.

In conclusion, I provded a very broad and liberal money back guarantee which at the time was unheard of in this business to avoid problems like yours when we have your unreasonable expecations of what a $199 reflash can do conflicting with the realities of through the mail flashing. If you were not pleased you should have just come back after your test ride and you would have gotten a full refund - period - on the spot.

While you are certainly free to conduct yourself in the manner in which you do - - I am also free to explain the other side of the story to those with a brain so they can make an informed decision.

You choose not to read my posts - they are too lenghty - however others will and hopefully will look beyond your name calling, lies and hate.

People who like my product are the type who like to follow the so called "case study" process and see what goes into making a good tune. They know that making a big dyno numer while the ecu is "pulling timing " is not the way I go about tuning.

 

THOSE who are intetested in a Houston tuning trip - I will now open a thread in the Dyno Flash section for discussion concerning dates and other plans

I will not answer further in this thread as I feel it has been hijacked all the way to Iraq

Thanks

 

Al, I gotta tell ya, buddy, there's no way in hell I have time to read all that. Have fun, make enough jack off your snake oil to afford your EMS tuned by someone else, and don't come back now, yeh hea?

 

You're really making yourself look like a winner here and representing your club extremely well too. Seriously, I'm actually embarassed for you.

 

Thankfully, its not my club first of all. Second, please tell me why your opinion matters to me regarding something that does even remotley concern you. I'm glad your embarrased for me. I guess if someone is required to be embarrased I'd rather it be you.

 

You need to quit with the lame come backs, you're just making yourself look like a bigger fool. Going to threaten to fight me next?

 

Al, you know what happened to my car after your custom tunes, I have held back but after you started accusing others of personal attacks against you please do remember your little tantrum you threw when I merely mentioned the possibility of having my car looked at by Turbotrix, didn't want to bring this to the public eye but it just got under my skin that you got so deperate to keep me on your bandwagon when things started looking bad.

Oct 24, 2004

"I am suprized that you would let those guys tune your car - very surprized indeed

They are buffons

Have you been following my case studies which have shown their tunes and dyno sheets and what kind of power I was able to make with careful tuning >?

It was funny today - they (turbo tricks) were stuck in Pensacola florida on the side of as road with a dead car calling me and begging for a '04 base file as they did not have one and had disabled a customer's '04 evo

Anyway like I said before the guy is a buffon - - he does hap hazard rush tuning and the results show"

 

Hey pal, I never asked anyone to fight. masterevo said we should beat the crap out of each other. does that sound like a race to you?

Anyways, you're not worth anymore of my time. Peace.