I do have lower ic from my Injen full intake kit.

I thought 3" Magnaflow cats were decent, guess not.

Catless is not an option for me! The guy that I saw there had a catco cat and still got 325whp.

The thing that bugs me is that the day before TT tune I had local Midas weld the Magnaflow into my midpipe. Spent $400 on this custom job with material and labor!

Maybe new cats improve over time....

 

_Then I am as confused as you....Phantom Boost Leak?

 

THE MAIN REASON IS, was that you were getting detonation up top, meaning you were have a restriction not allowing the hot exhaust gasses out, idm man.

 

There is NOTHING wrong with the magnaflow cat.
That is all I will say about that because alot of BS is being thrown out here.
I don't know how your 3" cat is going to affect your tune that much. Your tune seems a little sketchy to me.

 

The biggest restriction in that car is the turbo. NOT the CAT.

 

Biggest restriction is the turbo? You mean the stock turbo? I make 350 WHP on the same mods as him plus a pully and no cat, explain.

I still say the cat, then the lower Ic piping then the stock exhaust and so on..

 

This is total crap. I have seen, and many others as well, 20-30 ft lb/HP gains simply by removing the cat (and tuning for it). And then I have seen big aftermarket turbos make 10 more HP than the stocker. Then you see Curt Brown about to run 10's with the stock turbo. I bet he doesn't have a cat. Go back to tuning Civics and installing wooden bodykits.

 

He stated he doesn't have one ounce of stock exhaust left on his car.
And Yes I mean the stock turbo.

You stated earlier and I quote "" THE MAIN REASON IS, was that you were getting detonation up top, meaning you were have a restriction not allowing the hot exhaust gasses out, idm man.""


Have you ever measured pressure in the exhaust manifold before, or in any part of the exhaust system??
A turbocharger is your first and main restriction in that exhaust system above a certain RPM.
Now that is not to say that the ENGINE can not produce more power than claimed after his tune. I am just clearing up something.
Secondly if your car with the same mods was making more power before, specifically 50 more HP, you are contributing this to the aftermarket Magnaflow cat? Come on... Read thu the BS
You guys are tuning your cars on what kind of dyno?
Are you both running the same engine management?
Just flashes?
I would like to know if you are truely in the same mod class.

 

The stock cat I would tend to agree.
Obviously you read with your eyes and not your mind.
I stated that the biggest restriction on THAT vehicles' exhaust system was the turbo. MEANING that in my opinion the system if fine and capable of making more power.
NOT that he must change the turbo. I think you need to reread my post.
The evo simply with cams, intercooler & piping, with exaust make tremendous power, when tuned right. I actually agree with your statement.
Except the part of the wooden body kits. We have upgraded to reinforced cardboard now.

 

Really , you can get 400 whp out of the stock turbo and its a restriction? Since your on post number 8, i'll take your comments with a grain of salt. The cat is most def the biggest restriction on the car. Although i've been on your site. ..very impressive ..


Mark
Turbotrix..

 

Are you suggesting i cant tune ?

Mark
Turbotrix

 

Ah another hooked on phonics reader..
Read my previous posts about HIS system. Meaning that his exhaust is FINE. Your just making excuses because you couldn't match the power figure made by another car.
Also if you can read, oopps I'm sorry, if you can put some ideas together to form a thought then you may have read that the site is under construction.

 

Are you feeling a little insecure this morning?

 

I just want to know how in the HELL is the TURBO the biggest Restriction? That doesnt even sound right? Are you saying the turbo is bad?!

 

I don't know what kind of dyno the Dynotech is, but I got 257 whp on a DD dyno which is equivalent to 290 whp on an inertial dyno (Dynojet) with only an XEDE and a cat back..... That's stock cat, dp and everything else.......
I had a similar experience to yours in the past. My previous '03 GSR was "tuned" by Busted Solutions with similarly laughable results (if you can still laugh after spending multil $Ks on crap and crappy tuning). After much messing around and suffering from countless driveability issues, I finally got the car to make right at 298 whp on the DD dyno (333 whp on Dynojet) at 19 psi.
What I finally did was to remove the aftermarket intake, the AEM EMS and associated stuff and installed an Xflash to scale the big injectyors and an XEDE tuned by Andrew at Dyno4mance in Calhoun GA. That was with "one of those cars"

Your results are not what you could have..... OTOH, your mods and your tuning choice are prolly not going to get the results you want either. Sometimes you just gotta take stock of what you've got, look where you are at and where you want to go. It might be better to cut your losses and look seriously at other alternatives.