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Old May 6, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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I will be installing a hks 280 exhaust cam next week. I will then take it to the dyno and will post both graphs, without the 280 and w/ 280. I already have TBE, MBC, Intake, walbro and ttrix flash....will keep u posted

Any updates on 280 + stock turbo??

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Old May 11, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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actually i already ordered it....apparently it was in backorder....but they told me that they shipped it this week, so hopefully i'll have it with me next week and install it and tune it that same week....i promise i'll post results as soon as it's done
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Old May 26, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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finally here are the results......they are SAE corrected.....first, the previous TT tune was a little on the lean side.....we baselined at 12.8 A/F ratio.......so the previous whp numbers were changed to SAE and the results were 323.7 whp and 313.9 tq with 25.8 psi peak (tt tune).........new numbers after adding HKS 280 exhaust cam (with a 11.2 a/f ratio) and reflashed by Gadiel are 374.5 whp and 352 tq at 26.3 psi peak (93 oct and 112 oct mix) and 355.3 whp 325.9 tq at 23.4 psi peak (same a/f ratio)......so conclusive proof the 280 on the exhaust side works....ill post the dyno sheet tommorrow
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Old May 26, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkusEVO9
finally here are the results......they are SAE corrected.....first, the previous TT tune was a little on the lean side.....we baselined at 12.8 A/F ratio.......so the previous whp numbers were changed to SAE and the results were 323.7 whp and 313.9 tq with 25.8 psi peak (tt tune).........new numbers after adding HKS 280 exhaust cam (with a 11.2 a/f ratio) and reflashed by Gadiel are 374.5 whp and 352 tq at 26.3 psi peak (93 oct and 112 oct mix) and 355.3 whp 325.9 tq at 23.4 psi peak (same a/f ratio)......so conclusive proof the 280 on the exhaust side works....ill post the dyno sheet tommorrow
Did you upgrade your valve springs and retainers?
I also added a 280 cam, but it seems my valves are floating being I made less hp than cars without the cam.
Any thoughts to this?
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Old May 27, 2006 | 05:32 AM
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no i didn't upgrade springs and retainers. It doesn't seem I am getting any kind of valve float.....and the power band is mantained all the way to 7600rpm, so the exhaust cam makes a big difference
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Old May 27, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by statix
Did you upgrade your valve springs and retainers?
I also added a 280 cam, but it seems my valves are floating being I made less hp than cars without the cam.
Any thoughts to this?
Are you a newbie???Any HKS EVO Cam no need valve spring.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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thanks for the info and updating us with results..
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Old May 28, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Are you a newbie???Any HKS EVO Cam no need valve spring.
When your old enough to drive anything besides a go-kart, let me know, till then I wouldnt be advising anyone here.
Not to mention, my evo 8 is making over 500whp with most of the work done by me.
Being there arent to many evo 9's running around with 280 cam, there isnt enough research yet to say that there isnt any valve float with the 9 valvesprings.
And my 9 seems to be demostating valve float, Which my tuner (Shiv) agrees.
I was hoping there where others with some experience with the 280 cam...
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Old May 28, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by statix
When your old enough to drive anything besides a go-kart, let me know, till then I wouldnt be advising anyone here.
Not to mention, my evo 8 is making over 500whp with most of the work done by me.
Being there arent to many evo 9's running around with 280 cam, there isnt enough research yet to say that there isnt any valve float with the 9 valvesprings.
And my 9 seems to be demostating valve float, Which my tuner (Shiv) agrees.
I was hoping there where others with some experience with the 280 cam...
LOL. That kid is getting a little cocky.
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Old May 28, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TurbotrixRacing




Did an evo 9 last night. GT35 , with 26lbs of boost. The difference in the graph was just by adding a HKS 280 cam.. to the exhaust side. Changed the cam on the dyno back to back .. pulls.


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im confused i see a chart of a stock turbo car,topic says adding hks 280 to evo 9.

yet i dont see a before, dyno chart.

i see what i assume is the after chart

then i read gt35? but dont know where that is

im confused.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by statix
When your old enough to drive anything besides a go-kart, let me know, till then I wouldnt be advising anyone here.
Not to mention, my evo 8 is making over 500whp with most of the work done by me.
Being there arent to many evo 9's running around with 280 cam, there isnt enough research yet to say that there isnt any valve float with the 9 valvesprings.
And my 9 seems to be demostating valve float, Which my tuner (Shiv) agrees.
I was hoping there where others with some experience with the 280 cam...
haha burnt...

Statix I guess he doesn't check out socalevo.net?
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Old May 29, 2006 | 01:15 AM
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do the 9s have stronger springs? i dont understand how a 280 wouldnt cause valve float.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Its not the cam itself, its the profile, and that the profile makes peak power further in the powerband, so they rev the car further than they would with the stock cams.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sesso
do the 9s have stronger springs? i dont understand how a 280 wouldnt cause valve float.
That is a good question.
Maybe there softer?
I was very iffy on putting in the 280 cam for that reason but it seemed to be a 50/50 shot cause half the people I talked to including HKS said "It should be fine" other shops said no.
Being there already seemed to be a couple people here running the 280 without any problems.
Ill post my dyno graph when I get it, by about 6000rpms my power band flatlines, not matter how much Shiv changed the tune the power curve wouldnt change, which made everyone there believe the valves where floating???
At the end of the day my 9 made 318hp/325trq with a TBE,test pipe,MBC,280cam.
Which is what they other 9's where making without a cam.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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well, my mechanic and my tuner both agree that there was no valve float present. And I think the dynochart show convincing evidence that the 280 made a substantial change. In the dynochart you see 3 tunes. Bottom one was by TurboTrix. Middle one was with 280's with 93 oct and top one was 280's with 93 oct with about 2 gallons of C-12
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