aight

 

No my car is def. pulling timing. Joeycoates just said so and it is evident by my dyno sessions from Sept. There is no doubt about it.

 

I do not know why you would be leaner now or pulling more timing, you could be but I have no idea how you combination of parts work in concert with each other. Too many new variables to even take a guess, but I certainly do not know how the crank pulley would make the car pull timing. There has been talk of a crank pulley mimicking detonation causing the ECU to retard timing, but this seems to be all conjecture at this point. For all we know your car COULD be pulling timing putting it right to the point of optimal operation. Or maybe the new parts have helped put the car into an area where you no longer have to pull as much timing, however this does not account for the rape of Vincent before the additional mods. Who knows. Maybe the shift points were different between the two drivers, there does not seem to be much to be gained over 6800 on the stock turbo and stock head, even with cams. Maybe Cody just has an extremely well sorted out selection of parts, but if it is true that there was a 4-5 car length difference in 1/8 mile then something is very, very wrong. That is a 100whp difference at least, we are talking 4-5 lengths in 660 feet.

 

Yep, something is up.

 

Ironic, as Pintos are a great platform for the 1320 and often used as drag cars. Put some timeslips on the table, and we'll see the truth.

Its a 1+, though.

It is convenient to say that from several hundred miles away. Timeslips, please.

 

ok the one time i got a head start i was within a car or so from cody all the way...i truly believe it is driver skill...or lack of.

 

I don't know Noise, his car could be unusually strong. I think that he ran a very low 12 sec pass before the cams, intercooler piping, and crank pulley. When the turbotrix day rolls around it will be a bit easier to tell. Why don't you come down for it? I know you need an excuse to go driving!

Ok, maybe a high 12 sec pass, still pretty fast.....

 

FWIW, 2nd-4th gear pulls is quite a bit farther than 1/8th mile....QUITE a bit.

 

Thats what I have been trying to say. 5 to 6 cars in 2 gears is just not right. Something is wrong.

 

on a stock clutch?????

 

ironic as it may seem, timeslips are no problem, especially since evotexas drag races semi-professionally.

 

Just so you know, when we race I am not doing anything special. There is no launch technique on the highway and I am shifting carefully since there is no reason to blow something up when screwing around on the street.

Noize, when I had only this:

260 AWHP with
Dynoflash
Cat Delete
Catback (NO DP or anything else)
MBC at 21 psi

I ran a 12.8 @ 106 with a 1.73 60' at Ennis which is a slow track compared to some in CA.

Now with the TT flash and a DP and HKS RS added, I have dynoed ~300 AWHP while pulling timing on pump gas and 19 psi.

Since that dyno I have installed 264's, lower IC pipe, crank pulley, O2 housing and have not been dynoed and the track is closed for winter. Also, I am in no hurry to get back to the track for more launches on my weakening stock clutch.

So take that for whatever it's worth to you. BTW, all dyno numbers are on a Mustang so mark it up for a Dynojet.

 

We ran 3rd gear and about half of 4th. Not 2nd and up....

 

Timing being pulled because of the knock sensor sensing noise. Crank pulleys removes the harmonic balancer so the motor is nosier. Computer thinks it's knocking and timing is pulled because of more knock sensor input.


Eric

 

It is pulling timing because of the aggressive timing curve. It was pulling timing before I even thought about buying a crank pulley. Like I said in my previous post, it pulled timing on the dyno with the listed mods. The crank pulley was not one of them. I have had the crank pulley for a week or two only.