Yes

 

hmm I thought everything was going well with the Vishnu Stage 2 on the STi. What happened? If you don't want to post can someone please PM me b/c my brother is considering picking up an 05 STi and going stage 2.


Thanks,

Matt

 

Let me answer it this way.
Shiv tunes the car.
Within 150 miles and on its first pass at the track the motor lets loose.

I'll let my bro. detail the rest.



Cheers

 

Two blown stage 2 STIs within a couple of months.

 

Really weres the other one? Oh the one that is supposedly 2 quarts low on oil though not a drop in the intercooler, splashback and leak down and compresses perfect? Yea Marcus is fine and so is his car, boy yall sure trying to get things all stirred up.

Lets let everyone decide, with a spun bearing how many people think that is a bad tune? Now even further to take tuner judgement away what if the customers want/need was all out power and the request to make 50 more HP than the package stage 2s.

Thats the problem with big turbos its the judgement call of the tuner when to stop were he feels is safe- if thats taken away then I dont know what to say

 

To answer your question - yes there is a pattern

I have over 1,000 flashed evos out there now - not including the Buschur Flashes (which Dave Buschur tunes) - and so far there are zero repoted engine failures due to my tuning

We did have one guy who blew a head gasket with stock head studs and 350 tq on a mustand dyno

This new case invloves a piston which split in two while the customer was doing back to back drag racing and running too high a boost on pump gas

Out first flash was 15 months ago and the highest mileage is 65,000 miles

I think the pattern I see is one of a product which has a very good reliability record

Also, to note that Vishnu products also seem to enjoy an excelent reliability record which obviously supports my view that you can modify an evo and have good reliability

Kind of disturbing to see a post like this on another vendor's forum

 

In general, I'll stick up for Al in terms of reliability. If I was Al, I'd be really worried about all the guys running around with MBCs and SAFCs on his reflashes. Those devices can wreak havoc in the wrong hands. Then, crank up the boost or lean out their AFC and experience an engine failure, folks blame Al.

But here is the other side to that equation, Al promotes both of those products as good ways to enhance his reflash for racing. So, Al's reflash might not be responsible for an engine failure, but Al's endorsement of these products as a tuner does make his approach generally more risky than the straight reflashes.

In general, I give Al a pass on this engine failure stuff. In fact, our Evos aren't babies anymore. We are going to see more and more failures from here on out. Let's all keep level heads about it.

 

You can spin it anyway you want.

Let me refresh your fading memory, Dave.

http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=stage


And then you guys have the ***** to charge the guy to put his car to stock, have it towed to the dealer to warranty the engine.

Nice.

 

Oh yes your right Pete cowan a car he put together and whose con rod chunked and broke on the second warmup baseline run- funny Pete isnt pointing blame in fact the local Subie dealership replace it under warrenty explaining a major casting flaw. Damn didnt think wed get pegged for doing a power pull of a car we didnt build

 

And r u still runnin 22 #'s of boost on street gas and 28# on race makin 355 whp hp as Marcus the owner said a few times??? on A STI on CA 91 gas....
I guess his rod bearing will go next

One of the first things a few of u guys told me after my motor blew..."lets put it back to stock and take it to the dealer"...WOW...thats the same thing pete did..funny.

I have more great things to say...i have kept quiet LONG enough...Its bad enough Shiv tuned the car, and the motor blew up right after, then VISHNU turned its back on me...but now u've started to slap me in the face along with Shiv.


NO MORE LIES
NO MORE EXCUSES

NO MORE SPIN

time for the truth to come out....u invited in me Dave...now its time to play

 

Absolutely Im a truthful person if we/I was at fault so be it though in this case I am fully fine with explaining it as I feel that I have been as standup as possible. I am particularly sorry I missed the little sitdown chat. And lets start by saying I have never heard Anyone here suggest to take it into a dealer for warrenty. Replace with a stock shortblock yes- warrenty no

 

Turned my back on you? You refused to listen to my warning about the tune that you demanded just so you could keep up with your brother. I even had you sign the liability waiver in front of several people (all of which who are on this forum) who all heard you to told me to push it all the way to the limit. Come on Mark, take a little responsibility for your bravado. I told you that the motor was going to fail. You said "so what... if it does, i'll build a new one." Little did I know that you were going to try to extort us for a new Axis $6000 Stage IV race motor if and when it failed. We weren't suckered into your plans then and I couldn't care less about your situation now. All that's left for you to do is create drama where there should be none. Is this now why you decided not to meet with us in order to document all the facts in front of a third party?

Shiv

 

Mark, the truth does not favor your version of the events. IE Evo and I have been involved in this engine failure drama from the beginning. I've talked to you and your bro about it on cell phones. I know this story and so does several other non-Vishnu employess. Vishnu bent over backwards to get you back on the road for a discount even though they had no obligation to do so. You spun a rod bearing on a weak platform (US STI 2.5) to begin with. Thank God I got an Evo. That is not a tuning related failure and your post above reminds me of blackmail, but you have no case. Your desire to make max power at all costs did you in. Yer' just trying to do internet damage. It isn't right.

 

...u need to remember all the stuff u said about VSIHNU to me when we had ur talks, so don't play that game on ME
We talked about this before...and u knew what was going on.
And why do u have to bring Ron( IE)into this??..If u want we can

Please...i don't have the time or desire to battle Vishnu groupies
I never made any threats of blackmail...I kept quiet because SHIV asked me too, I lied cause Shiv asked me too.

Enough is just that, enough.

I'm sittin here with a car with 6000 miles with a blown up motor...I'm sure Shivs tuning had nothing to do with it....


BTW the discount was lets see....FULL retail price on the motor and parts...about $600 or so for the install...and $1200 of SHivs dyno tunning...( about 1 hour)


I checked around...shops charge $1000-1400 for install...so thats a break of $600
Maybe??