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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Edit this map is only availible to tuners at this point.
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu
Edit this map is only availible to tuners at this point.

D'oa! I didn't know I had that version.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu
Edit this map is only availible to tuners at this point.
What's the point, since you can still delete and re-create the map anyway?

Jaylenospoolboy: Send me your XMap.
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Jaylenospoolboy: Don't send him that xmap. I wonder how you even got it. hehehe.
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu
Jaylenospoolboy: Don't send him that xmap. I wonder how you even got it. hehehe.
Bah! Busted!
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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Dustin,

I did have the questions below;

Originally Posted by Jaylenospoolboy

I just installed Launch Control in V3.2_0_2

I noticed SMART Boost only has the first load row zeroed out. Should I zero out the second row also?

My Fuel tables all show negative numbers except for the 109 Fuel table which reads positive numbers in just load row 20: XMCO 17 1 -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 -0.2 -0.7 -0.9 -0.9 -1.4 -0.7 0.0 1.4 1.4 1.4 1.9 1.9 -3.3 -3.5 . Is this ok?


My SMART fuel map had been turned off so I think this may have helped too. The car feels really strong. I'll post up my thoughts once I have more seat time.

Old Aug 19, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaylenospoolboy
Dustin,

I did have the questions below;
You can zero out the 2nd row, but either way will work fine.

fuel table looks fine.
Old Aug 19, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu
You can zero out the 2nd row, but either way will work fine.

fuel table looks fine.
Thanks!
Old Aug 28, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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Shiv, I was able to try out the more aggressive S.M.A.R.T. fuel and timing maps that you recently posted. My car felt much stronger on the 91 octane water injection map. When I increased the nozzle size to inject more water/alcohol, the car felt even stronger. The most interesting part is when I lowered the water injection turn on point from 15 PSI down to 10 PSI, my part throttle response around town greatly improved. Those quick bursts of accelleration to pass a car now pulls me back in my seat. I would assume that the more aggressive fuel and timing maps are allowing better timing advance and possibly leaner A/F mixtures with the addition of a earlier turn on point and a larger nozzle. I still believe that you could squeeze out some more power out of my set up. I'll have to make a trip up north in the near future to see you for some further tuning.
Old Aug 29, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by EvoTio
Shiv, I was able to try out the more aggressive S.M.A.R.T. fuel and timing maps that you recently posted. My car felt much stronger on the 91 octane water injection map. When I increased the nozzle size to inject more water/alcohol, the car felt even stronger. The most interesting part is when I lowered the water injection turn on point from 15 PSI down to 10 PSI, my part throttle response around town greatly improved. Those quick bursts of accelleration to pass a car now pulls me back in my seat. I would assume that the more aggressive fuel and timing maps are allowing better timing advance and possibly leaner A/F mixtures with the addition of a earlier turn on point and a larger nozzle. I still believe that you could squeeze out some more power out of my set up. I'll have to make a trip up north in the near future to see you for some further tuning.

i'd love to give it shot! Come on up!

Shiv
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
Another feature we are working on RIGHT NOW is the abilty to set conditional outputs:



This would relieve us of having to use full tables to turn things on and off (launch control, fuel threshold, leanrun protect, overboost protect, etc,.) This would free of some space and give us more memory for more tables.

Cheers,
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Any updates ...... I would like to have Launch Control made a feature not a map.
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
Any updates ...... I would like to have Launch Control made a feature not a map.
Jeff, if this offers a little insight, everytime I ask a Vishnu related person about Lauch Control, they tell me take it off and only use it under race conditions.

Seems the Launch Control elicits lots of broken driveline parts... They say even those with beefed up TC's and transmissions are breaking.

It's fun but just thought I'd mention it... .

As far as making it a feature, I know they're working on it because once they have it, they can shoehorn in 2 maps again. Once they get it, just remember to wait 2 or 3 seconds extra to let the Xede boot up.
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaylenospoolboy
Jeff, if this offers a little insight, everytime I ask a Vishnu related person about Lauch Control, they tell me take it off and only use it under race conditions.

Seems the Launch Control elicits lots of broken driveline parts... They say even those with beefed up TC's and transmissions are breaking.

It's fun but just thought I'd mention it... .

As far as making it a feature, I know they're working on it because once they have it, they can shoehorn in 2 maps again. Once they get it, just remember to wait 2 or 3 seconds extra to let the Xede boot up.

isn't launch control the same as holding the rpm's at like 6k, but the software does it for you instead of watching the tach, and as soon as you dump the clutch, you are back at no rev limiter?


have an xede, just waiting until the winter to install so I can do smart as well, all at the same time..
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sandm
isn't launch control the same as holding the rpm's at like 6k, but the software does it for you instead of watching the tach, and as soon as you dump the clutch, you are back at no rev limiter?


have an xede, just waiting until the winter to install so I can do smart as well, all at the same time..

Welllllll, the short answer is no.

the Xede Launch control builds boost while the engine has no load. 10-12 psi last time I looked. You also get no lift shifts that keep the rpm up and the turbo spooled, again no lower that 10-12 psi. The Launch control on the new Evos merely keeps the high RPM clutch dumps from happening above 5000 rpm and has no NLS capability.

With Xede LC - as Shiv put it - there is a lot more hp available to shock the driveline.

With the hp comes added energy, not all of which will move the car forward.
There are a few things that can happen.

You can feather the clutch and HOPE the power delivery is linear as the clutch slips, disposing of excess energy.

You can spin the wheels and give up some of the excess energy.

The transmission or transfercase can absorb the energy - usually once.



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