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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 07:53 AM
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It's like a friggen soap opera up in here. OH THE DRAMA... WHAT EVER WILL WE DO!?
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperHatch
I saved the first 100 posts before it got closed if anyone wants to enjoy it, I found it humerous. And from what I hear, it got worse after post 100!

Please send it too me...

Heck you can sale them on ebay
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Volunteer
We need a "PINKS" episode for EVOM, flame on, race, loser looses his car.

That would RULE!!!!
The winner could let his supporters take baseball bats to the loser's car on national TV.

I know I'd fly across the country to _legally_ swing a bat at the silver Dynoflush mobile.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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Please elaborate.

Originally Posted by Doogie Howser
If you can't realize the differences in the working culture btw. the tri-state area compared to CA or rest of the USA than you need to get out a bit more...
Please elaborate.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:12 AM
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The bottom line is that Evo vendors are reacting to a tight market.

Business is not going well for any of them.......More and more people are learning how to tune and how to shop around for cheaper products. And besides, how many cars can you tune......there are only so many of them out there.

Our economy does not have a bright future...and they know this, so they will fight to death for the few "fresh" potential customers.

They are not fighting because they dislike each other, they are fighting for survival.....

The only thing that sets them apart is their personalities.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cfdfireman1
Please elaborate.
The only thing I see is low-class trash culture epitomized by Al.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
That would RULE!!!!
The winner could let his supporters take baseball bats to the loser's car on national TV.

I know I'd fly across the country to _legally_ swing a bat at the silver Dynoflush mobile.


you crack me up hahahaah
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rastmp
The bottom line is that Evo vendors are reacting to a tight market.

Business is not going well for any of them.......More and more people are learning how to tune and how to shop around for cheaper products. And besides, how many cars can you tune......there are only so many of them out there.

Our economy does not have a bright future...and they know this, so they will fight to death for the few "fresh" potential customers.

They are not fighting because they dislike each other, they are fighting for survival.....

The only thing that sets them apart is their personalities.

its not about how many cars... Many EVOs on here got tuned over 3~4 times and thats alot of money.

Its how many times they get you to tune your car after an intake after an exhaust after a sticker mod.

You know how it goes.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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i got to read it at about 170 replies. I thought shiv was being rather professional responding to Al breaking about every rule on evoM

All i know is that they probably lost some potential customers because of these last few weeks of bs. I guess who's e-***** is bigger is more important to some.

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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cfdfireman1
Please elaborate.
The tri-state area working culture has always been characterized as being extremely busy, impersonal, money-hungry, stressful, etc. while the CA working culture for example is much more laid back, more personal, less stressful, not as fast paced or serious....

I don't think tuners need to "fight" for anybodies business b/c your work/products/etc. should speak for itself. I really don't think its survival mode for these tuners, and I personally feel the good ones will keep on doing business while those who can't will be out out of a job eventually.

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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Rastmp
The bottom line is that Evo vendors are reacting to a tight market.

Business is not going well for any of them

Our economy does not have a bright future...and they know this, so they will fight to death for the few "fresh" potential customers.

The only thing that sets them apart is their personalities.
I can't speak for the other two, but business is better than ever for us. We are doing tons of development, sales are good, and we have more opportunities to help the aftermarket community than we have ever had.

This fight you are talking about is somewhat one sided, for quite some time. For instance, people asked for shiv's opinion on the 20g. Shiv said that he wasn't impressed, and offered an explanation regarding wheel speeds, of why he thought it didn't work out. People asked for the dyno chart, so he posted it. Then DB and Al came on about how he is always trying cause sh*t. In reality, Shiv answered a question, and posted a factual piece of data.

The only thing that sets them apart is not their personalities, its their abilities, their IQ, and of course the physical threats they make.

I for the most part stay out of the 15 page threads, but I read them all, and I know the exact patterns they follow.

I will post more thoughts on this later, but I am in class right now.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Doogie Howser
The tri-state area working culture has always been characterized as being extremely busy, impersonal, money-hungry, stressful, etc. while the CA working culture for example is much more laid back, more personal, less stressful, not as fast paced or serious....

I don't think tuners need to "fight" for anybodies business b/c your work/products/etc. should speak for itself. I really don't think its survival mode for these tuners, and I personally feel the good ones will keep on doing business while those who can't will be out out of a job eventually.
I can't disagree with you at all on that point but I don't think that's what he was trying to say.

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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
That would RULE!!!!
The winner could let his supporters take baseball bats to the loser's car on national TV.

I know I'd fly across the country to _legally_ swing a bat at the silver Dynoflush mobile.
Old Mar 15, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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To show you how David B. Really feels:

http://buschurforums.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=15327

Well it seems as though myself and a few others have been banned from Evolution M for a few weeks. I personally was banned for sending a PM to one of the members telling him I'd like to set up an appointment with him and Shiv for the same day to see how big their mouths were in person. I did this in a PM where I was instructed to take any problems I had rather than post them publically. This little ***** that I sent the PM to then posted it publically, which doesn't bother me I only sent it in a PM to keep the boards cleaned up of such trash, then I was banned.

This is actually great news. We will now be posting links only on EVOM to just click on and send you back here to our site for all the good information. We will be keeping the threads clean and much easier to read. Useless posts will be deleted. Most of the threads on EVOM are 15 pages of dumb comments and people making excuses why they can't go as fast as someone else or make the same power as someone who did the job right in the first place.

Al from Dynoflash will also be getting a section here that he will moderate and can be contacted from.

For all of you that come here to visit and find GOOD information I want to thank you in advance. I think this is going to be much easier to sort through and get to the facts.....without the fights and garbage.

Thanks again,

David Buschur
President
Buschur Racing, Inc.
Funny thing is, I don’t believe that EvoM allows for cross posting. I also think its rather disturbing that a vendor would physically threaten members and other vendors. I know I would not buy from someone that behaved in this manner.

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