shiv@vishnu account disabled?
Originally Posted by Event-Horizon
Jesus, Az3ar, this is the crap that everyone is talking about and needs to stop. There are those that know you in person and know you dont know your *** from your elbow. All you do is come in to either the Vishnu forums, or the Dynoflash forums and try to stir the pot. I thought you said you were leaving these forums at one time. Why don't you give that a try sometime?
NEVER, I am all over you number 1 Vishnu supporter
az3ar, the reason everyone ditched you is because you take your problems strait to the forums...like a little kid.
I think al's biggest downfall is he is liek teh k-mart of tuning. tunes any and everything for the dumbest and cheapest set of customers.
I think al's biggest downfall is he is liek teh k-mart of tuning. tunes any and everything for the dumbest and cheapest set of customers.
I am convinced that this "fight" is motivated by business/sales need or greed.
Vendors try to character assassinate each other in front of potential customers and existing customers......they want attention........
The common link here is that the vendors involved in this "fight", sell the same product....
To me its obvious that the tuning market is getting tighter due to other big companies getting in on the action....and its natural for smaller vendors to feel the heat and resort to desperate tactics.......
Like I said....It's do or die in today’s economy....
Vendors try to character assassinate each other in front of potential customers and existing customers......they want attention........
The common link here is that the vendors involved in this "fight", sell the same product....
To me its obvious that the tuning market is getting tighter due to other big companies getting in on the action....and its natural for smaller vendors to feel the heat and resort to desperate tactics.......
Like I said....It's do or die in today’s economy....
Originally Posted by Dustin@Vishnu
I can't speak for the other two, but business is better than ever for us. We are doing tons of development, sales are good, and we have more opportunities to help the aftermarket community than we have ever had.
This fight you are talking about is somewhat one sided, for quite some time. For instance, people asked for shiv's opinion on the 20g. Shiv said that he wasn't impressed, and offered an explanation regarding wheel speeds, of why he thought it didn't work out. People asked for the dyno chart, so he posted it. Then DB and Al came on about how he is always trying cause sh*t. In reality, Shiv answered a question, and posted a factual piece of data.
The only thing that sets them apart is not their personalities, its their abilities, their IQ, and of course the physical threats they make.
I for the most part stay out of the 15 page threads, but I read them all, and I know the exact patterns they follow.
I will post more thoughts on this later, but I am in class right now.
This fight you are talking about is somewhat one sided, for quite some time. For instance, people asked for shiv's opinion on the 20g. Shiv said that he wasn't impressed, and offered an explanation regarding wheel speeds, of why he thought it didn't work out. People asked for the dyno chart, so he posted it. Then DB and Al came on about how he is always trying cause sh*t. In reality, Shiv answered a question, and posted a factual piece of data.
The only thing that sets them apart is not their personalities, its their abilities, their IQ, and of course the physical threats they make.
I for the most part stay out of the 15 page threads, but I read them all, and I know the exact patterns they follow.
I will post more thoughts on this later, but I am in class right now.
Originally Posted by AtO-MiX
check his name it says disabled on it. Here
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Originally Posted by David@Vishnu
Don't count on it. It's a self-fullfilling destinty. If enough people say that all the parties involved are guilty of the same thing, to the same degree, it will eventually be viewed as fact. Accurate or not. That's why it is called HIstory.
The action was the end result of cumulative behaviour over the last year, not just the last thread. Shiv has been a willing partner in the vendor drama and your lack of appreciation of the that is disappointing. The decision is final so take the discussion some where else (not on Evom). Thanks.
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